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December 23rd, 2003, 05:24 PM
| | The village idiot | | Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Portsmouth Year(s): 2 years JJ, about 1.5 years on off KF
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Rep Power: 19 | | | Bitter feelings...when will this end??? Since I've got back home for Christmas, I've been flooded with memories of the times I had with my friends just a few months ago.
One memory that stands out in particular; when I realised I had fallen in love with my best friend ; the most naive girl on the planet.
All the time I've been thinking about this, I haven't been able to ignore the pain I went through. Her naivety gave her an excuse to "ignorantly" act a certain way around me, which made me wonder if she wanted more than a friendship. Her childish naggings of "I don't fancy you!" collided with her naive ignorance, and resulted in mass confusion, fear and much pain for me. I've always had a sneaky suspicion that she acted that way for fun, to get her own way, to wrap me around her little finger so that I would do everything she said. But for a whole 2 years that I knew her, my suspicions were never confessed by her, and she continued to act that way.
It is these two factors - proper naivety, or false naivety - that bring a mass of confusion, and bitter feelings back with these memories. I think deep down, I still love her a little bit, but only a very little bit...but everything I feel when I think of her is just pain. The memories of her actions that caused me harm, and the memories of her naive actions that caused me harm, bring so many bitter feelings. And the fact that she seemed like she couldn't care less when I told her everything, brings even more bitter feelings.
I haven't seen her these whole holidays so far because she's been away, and she gets back on the day I go back to university. I won't see her for a long time, so perhaps I'll feel differently come that time, but at the moment one thought remains. I for some reason feel like I never, ever want to see her again, never, ever speak to her again, and not have anything about me ever said to her again. I feel like I'd be so much happier if this would happen, and that as a result of this she would be sad. I guess her pain (if she cared enough to get hurt by this) would make me happy...but I don't hate her.
But my moral side is questioning it. I guess this could be an instinctive natural reaction to such an emotionally painful time. And she's good friends with all of my old friends who I've been seeing so much of this past week. It would be hard to not see her again, because I do so much with these friends. It may hurt these friends aswell, even though they are not directly involved.
I just feel so bitter, and have done for ages. And I feel like the only thing that could get rid of these feelings, is to never see her again...to hurt her
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December 23rd, 2003, 06:44 PM
|  | WATAAAAAAAAAAAH! | | Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Delaware Style(s): XingYi Year(s): about 2
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December 23rd, 2003, 06:57 PM
| | Venerable Student | | Join Date: May 2003
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Rep Power: 8 | | ahh, may be when you stop blaming other people. 
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December 23rd, 2003, 07:10 PM
|  | just some guy | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NH Style(s): kajukenpo pai lum Year(s): some
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Rep Power: 11 | | | I have had the same feelings in the past. So let me offer some advice based on experience...
It doesn't matter what you do, you'll always be the one that hurts more. If you try to never see her again, you'll always be wondering if that is causing her pain. And it won't be. At least not as much as you'd like it to. That will just cause you more pain. Believe me, it's an awful circle.
Also, the "make myself better (psychologically, intelligently, physically, etc) to make her want me more" approach doesn't work either. She'll never care as much as you want her to. You'll feel worse. Same circle over again.
Just deal with it. Avoid her if seeing her causes you pain, not because you want to cause her pain. Just live. You'll get past it eventually, or at least the pain with dull. But things like this take time.
One more bit of advice. Don't try to stifle the bitter feelings. Let them be. Explore them. Are you really angry at her Or angry at yourself for allowing you to be open and vulnerable I know from my experiences it has been some of both.
If you do run into her, you don't have to be friendly, just civil.
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December 23rd, 2003, 07:21 PM
|  | Super Moderator | | Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: South East England Style(s): Sinclair Wing Chun Year(s): 8
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December 23rd, 2003, 07:33 PM
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December 24th, 2003, 05:54 AM
| | The village idiot | | Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Portsmouth Year(s): 2 years JJ, about 1.5 years on off KF
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Rep Power: 19 | | | Vap, that's the thing that's pissing me off the most. I don't know if I can blame her or not...something in me really wants to blame her for what she did, but at the same time I don't think it's fair.
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December 24th, 2003, 06:52 AM
|  | Super Moderator | | Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Z.O.D. Style(s): Hardcore
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Rep Power: 100 | | | jeembo don't blame someone for your feelings..
it puts them in control
take control over your thoughts
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December 24th, 2003, 06:54 AM
| | Venerable Student | | Join Date: May 2003
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Rep Power: 8 | | What boil down to is this. You are blaming her for not going out with you.
The best thing one of my friend did when he got rejected by his good friend was to get himself totally drunk then said every vile thing he could say about her and occasionally saying he is miserable. Quickest route to recovery in my view.
You with repressed emotion and all that, it is going to take loooooooon time. Life suck sometimes, doesn't it. 
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December 24th, 2003, 11:00 AM
|  | Smashesfistw/face | | Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Mountain West - USA Year(s): Lost track, dont care, but its not long enough.
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know the feeling. But life goes on, and new love will come. Just keep on going, and don't let the love you feel and is not reciporcated stop your life.
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December 24th, 2003, 11:20 AM
|  | Fear is the Mind Killer | | Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: MA Style(s): Long Men Jia Quan Year(s): 27
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Rep Power: 81 | | | As Aqira said thoughts are a controllable thing. The problem here is that they are connected to memories. Memories have a way of surfaceing without being called on. You have to start enjoying your memories as they come. Dont allow yourself the despair and the memories will supply you with good feeling of a time in your life that you enjoyed.
Just another stage of developement.
We are all works in progress. The Pain is as important to who we will become as the pleasures.
She has helped you in the evolution of the thing called jeembo. Alow that, be thankful for it and be ready for all the other things in your life that are part of the process.
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December 28th, 2003, 12:36 AM
|  | Venerable Student | | Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Boston Style(s): Monkey Style,Silat,Kali Year(s): 5
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December 28th, 2003, 09:11 AM
|  | Registered User | | Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: ireland. Year(s): 5
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Rep Power: 0 | | jeembo, let it go.
life's too short for beating yourself up over some sweet sixteen crush, or whatever it may be
if it was me,(and it usually is), id be out looking for the bbd(bigger better deal). go find a woman instead of talking with us over the net.There's so much to be see, you just have to look in the right places | 
December 28th, 2003, 09:18 AM
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December 28th, 2003, 11:40 AM
|  | Olivia Ragazza | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Michigan Year(s): 2
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Rep Power: 27 | | | “ | I don't know if I can blame her or not...something in me really wants to blame her for what she did, but at the same time I don't think it's fair. | ” | |
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Dragonette quote you can take from the grave here:
"If you put faith in someone for any reason (specially matters of the heart) and they let you down-it is no ones fault but your own for putting faith where it is not deservent."
Ex-husband taught me that. One of the few "hard life" theories of his that I agree w/. | “ | I think deep down, I still love her a little bit, but only a very little bit...but everything I feel when I think of her is just pain. | ” | |
The worse part of these kind of scenarios are the memories of good times....suddenly you look back on them and you know longer appreciate the fun you had. Like an awesome night you had with that person, or day, whatever...now those beautiful memories of love/lust and the rose-colored joy experienced at the time are now tainted with bitter acknowledgement of what really went down.
I feel for you little Jeembo. Most all of us know what is like to have your heart torn out. It is much more painful when the motivation for the heart break was just little ego games of some *****. That hurts the most, I understand, hence my original quote. Don't be too bitter my friend, you will do no good to marinate yourself in hate. Just remember the lesson to be learned and never give your love to someone who does not deserve it.
I LOVE U JEEEMBO!!!!!!!
Feel better now punk 
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