I`ll try to answer your questions, first, as x893 says:

x893: If you "know" it's real...then why are you getting so defensive
It's obvious it's not. As Allan previously pointed out. And I've seen this "trick" before somewhere. I cant remember where exactly...but if I do...I'll gladly post a link (if it's a website).

Leril: Well x893, as I have said before, it`s not a trick. I have no interest in trying to trick you. It`s what the film shows, nothing more, nothing less. I will gain nothing by "tricking", and by the way, how can I trick this How can I make an egg explode. I am no David Copperfield, I have no skills at all when it comes to magic. I only did what the training manual said - sit down, meditate - transfer energy to the egg - making it "in your mind" - hard as stone. Then Ernst came and tested the egg.

x893: Also, if you really believe that you can make energy leave your body and make objects outside "harder".....you should go to a university, and have them use real scientific equipment to take exact measurements of this "effect" on eggs.

Leril: Well, that suggestion has been given to me also from a Norwegian forum. I guess its possible to do that, and who knows, maybe I will..

x893: But...let's assume it is "real". Then what So you can make an egg withstand a few pounds more of pressure. That still wouldnt stop your arm from being broken in an armbar....or a punch to the temple from knocking you out.
It's not going to heal anyone as in TCM (traditional chinese medicine).
So even if it is real, what's the point

Leril: Well, of course I know that the egg test in itself can`t do anything in a combat situation. But it is well known that you can take advantage of the energy you have gained through training. I cannot confirm that the Tridaya "no touch" self defense is for real - since I have never tried that, but what I have experienced is that through energy training, no matter if its regular chi gung or the Tridaya exercises - it will help you get relaxed, focused, faster and it also gives more natural power in strikes and kicks. So in that way the energy training can be helpful in a combat situation. I don`t say that Tridaya is better than other methods. I have tried other chi gung forms also, and they all give me good effect, but since they are different, they give different effects (and also some similar).

Whats interesting with the Tridaya breathing techniques is that it works extremely fast, no side effects (even though you use "pressure" when holding the breath), it also makes you relaxed and being able to control the breath, and of course - it makes you able to "extend" the energy outside of the body - even to things like eggs and bulbs etc.

When I decided to try this - I was very skeptical - had no belief it could work. I was therefore very surprised when it did. And it worked every time I tested it. That convinced me personally that is is possible to transfer energy to someone or something. How the egg can become "hard as stone", and what actually happens - I have no idea. But definitely - it is happening, so I have to accept it. I can`t force anyone else to accept it, and it really doesn`t matter either - since I know in my heart that it is for real.

I have a good sense of humour, but it was not fun being laughed at and ridiculed AT ONCE when I came to this forum, just trying to share my experiences. I can understand you treat me like an "internet" person, and maybe you have treated me different if we had met in person. For me, if it is in real life - or on the internet - it doesn`t matter. I would like to treat people the same way, no matter what.

Maybe you guys have had some bad experiences before - but that doesn`t mean that all you meet are like that. I am no chi gung master or master in internal arts. The reason for trying the Tridaya was pure curiosity. I knew I took a chance, paying hundreds of dollars, not even knowing if I would get anything at all. But the book I ordered came to me just about a week after ordering. It was a very good book, and I agree with the philosophy in the book. I decided to try and test out the techniques just to see if it worked. I told my chi gung teacher about the techniques, and he said it was ok to test them, but that I should be careful and stop immediately if I felt some negative reactions.

Well, its been over a year. I am still doing fine and am ok. Have almost not been sick at all this last year, no problems with the head, stomach, muscles or anything else. So far, I have not experienced any negative side effect at all from the Tridaya breathing. The only negative is how I was met the first time on this forum.

But as I have said, I can also understand you. Probably there are many "maniacs" out there, claiming to do all kinds of weird stuff. I know that this is weird too, but at least I have tried to show you that it is for real. There are no tricks involved here, and if anyone of you can duplicate this - I would be happy to hear how you did it. Maybe this is possible to do even if you have been training chi gung or other kinds of energy training too I don`t know, it could be possible, and if someone would like to try, and maybe film it too, that would be great!

I would like to find out more about this - is this unique for Tridaya or is it possible to do the same if you have been training internal arts, chi gung etc. for some time

Hi there Chief108! Well, the weather here in Norway is actually great! No snow at all, sunny and warm! Its a very early spring this year, but it`s very nice! Hope the summer will be just as fine!

So, how are you doing

You know, what I think is one of the main "problems" with Tridaya, is that it gives you lots of energy in a very short time. Many people have been training internal arts and chi gung for years, and we hear all the time that it takes YEARS AND YEARS of dedication. And then, this Tridaya dude comes along, and says it can be done in a week or two... I can understand if people get in a defensive position then!

I am not at all out the disregard any form of internal traingl! No matter if you train Tai Chi, chi gung, yoga etc. it`s all great! People must train what they enjoy and like. If they can feel some good effect of the training, they should definitely continue! But my point is, ALSO the Tridaya breathing metod can give you some good effect. They are not dangerous and they give you lots of energy very fast. But, I don`t think a beginner should START with Tridaya, it`s probably best to start with some basic chi gung first, like "embracing the tree", and then maybe try test the Tridaya after a while.

When it comes to the training methods, I can share the "basics" with you. It`s very simple - just breathing. Breath in for 15 seconds, hold the breath for 15 seconds (or more), and breath out for 15 seconds. There are 3 variations of this, one focuses on the chest, one on the stomach, and one combine them. You also visualize during the breathing, focusing (in the stomach method), on the Tan Ti`en. I think the breathing probably are well known in many meditation forms, BUT here you also squeese and press the muscles in various parts of the body at the same time as you do the breathing exercises. I believe that it is this "pressure" which are the key in these methods.

Some of you have said that it is dangerous to manipulate the breath and/or squeeze/press the muscles during chi gung or meditation. You have to be careful though, not to squeeze the neck area - but only squeeze the correct part of the body in the exercise. If you do that, they are not dangerous. At least I have not experienced anything at all so far.

Allan Tsang: Yes, I know that there are probably many ways to test this in a more scientific matter. The film I showed is no scientific test at all. It just shows the test, thats all. I don`t know how "big" this is or not. For me personally it was just a test, done out of plain curiosity. It convinced me that transfering energy is possible - and thats it. I know now that it is possible. If the rest of the world will belive it or not - it really doesnt matter. But who knows, it could be fun to try it out with some science folks checking it out! They have some egg strength testing machine in Trondheim in Norway, maybe they could check this out Maybe you would believe me then