Generating Ging

I have past the 2 year mark with my training, and I feel as if recently, i have made big steps in the right direction. I am starting to have the strength needed to be successfull in what i aim to do and I feel as if I mentally understand the subject matter.

What I think I need to work on now, is generating GING, energy, snap, whatever you want to call it. Specifically in my Hung Gar form sets. If i practice with the proper energy in my sets, i think that will translate into proper execution at the moment of truth.

Any Suggestions?

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Hung Gar/Win Chung student

This type of power develops at different paces for everybody. If you feel youre generating substantial jing at 2 years, then you are doing a decent job.

Concentrate on the motions, the path your hand and arm takes and the explosion at the end; feel it in your root, and the areas of your body that applies to your type of power generation; stay relaxed as possible, practice them ALOT...

...and your body will take care of the rest. =)

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PlumDragon Herbs: Dit Da Jow and Iron Palm Liniments

"When a handshake passes the elbow, it becomes Judo."

Can't speak for other styles, but we'll issue jing from our core. Taking into account what Plum said about the hand and arm, minus the explosion at the end. The motion itself carries more than enough jing.

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Agree with the Plum

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"Battles are won by slaughter and maneuver. The greater the general, the more he contributes in maneuver, the less he demands in slaughter." - Sir Winston Churchill

An instructor suggested to me recently, the idea of trying to seperate them into ideas like "vectors", Lift, Sink, Turn, Split.... I'm thinking and working on the ideas as I practice my own sets. It seems to really help to break down each movement into its "core" vectors.

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Thanks, i got some ideas now.

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Hung Gar/Win Chung student

“	Originally Posted By: jawsman Taking into account what Plum said about the hand and arm, minus the explosion at the end. The motion itself carries more than enough jing.	”

Let me qualify something:
In many southern styles, we try to put our energy at the end of the motion vs closer to the beginning as in many styles, ie the most acceleration (explosion) is experienced right before/at contact. I imagine many styles will emphasize accelration at different points, unconsciously or not.

But when I said explosion I was referring the contact, more of a visualization, like your energy being transmitted through, creating a shockwave with whatever it is you are hitting. IMO, its just analogous to following through with a swing in tennis or golf...

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PlumDragon Herbs: Dit Da Jow and Iron Palm Liniments

"When a handshake passes the elbow, it becomes Judo."

odd that you mentioned follow through plum. On Wed. I was in class and trying to help a newer student work on the Earth attack. And he kept pulling it before he got his arm all the way around. And I said, "Follow through, you can't bunt a home run"

But thanks for all the input. What i've noticed as plum mentioned is that the explosivness does wat to come at contact. And I think alot of that has to do with not keeping my shoulders so tense, or my arms, until the last moment before contact. That snap in the final milisecond of the motion is what i think may help.

Im also going to work on really geting my hip motion in time with my upper body.

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"When the battle is over, tighten your chin strap." ~Old Japanese Saying
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Hung Gar/Win Chung student

I agree with Plum and Jaws. Power originates at core (usually lower spinal rotation) and follows through the target. My sifu also uses golf and tennis swing annalogies. Also, pivoting the feet is important or you will restrict the flow.

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“	Originally Posted By: PlumDragon Let me qualify something: In many southern styles, we try to put our energy at the end of the motion vs closer to the beginning as in many styles, ie the most acceleration (explosion) is experienced right before/at contact. I imagine many styles will emphasize accelration at different points, unconsciously or not. But when I said explosion I was referring the contact, more of a visualization, like your energy being transmitted through, creating a shockwave with whatever it is you are hitting. IMO, its just analogous to following through with a swing in tennis or golf...	”

I can understand using the word explosiveness as a visualisation tool. As for acceleration, our thoeries differ... like you mentioned. All our motions start from the core, once movement is started... it will have the same speed throughout the motion. Accelerating at any point in between requires muscle, which takes away from return time. Through this method, acceleration takes place at the beginning... meaning that there is not need to adjust if contact happens sooner or later.

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Jaws, out of curiosity, are most of your hand strikes close quarters or longfist-ish in nature? Or somehwere in between? If they are in between, do you generate power the same way at range as you do in very close?

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PlumDragon Herbs: Dit Da Jow and Iron Palm Liniments

"When a handshake passes the elbow, it becomes Judo."

“	Originally Posted By: PlumDragon Jaws, out of curiosity, are most of your hand strikes close quarters or longfist-ish in nature?	”

We are long, yet close.

“	do you generate power the same way at range as you do in very close?	”

Yes.

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Learn what its like to sneaze at will. Then you will have mastered Jing.

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“	Originally Posted By: PaiLumUmar Learn what its like to sneaze at will. Then you will have mastered Jing.	”

Well..... I can pass gas at will. Does that count?

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“	Originally Posted By: jawsman We are long, yet close.	”

I cant quite say I understand that statement...=)

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PlumDragon Herbs: Dit Da Jow and Iron Palm Liniments

"When a handshake passes the elbow, it becomes Judo."