Chinese Double Dagger Forms

Actually, centerline strategies are effective, we use them with certain things and they've always worked very well for me.

Don't know about chain punching though, our methods are a little different and I like them better, but the CL theory isn't a bad one.

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well clf_d you have obviously grasped the wing chun fundementals

and made them part of you

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incidentally the chain punch is more of a training aid

than a deadly technique in its own right

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I think the Chainpunch can still be made into a Mortal Kombat finisher move thought.

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So could wild haymakers

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clf_d : " think the Chainpunch can still be made into a Mortal Kombat finisher move thought"

admittedly that would look cool

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Ya know, here recently a friend of mine just got out of basic training (Marines) and told me of an exhibition where a guy showed knife techniques with...as he said...some type of knife that had a ring on the butt end of the handle.

He said the guy used two knives and with the fingers in the rings, the blades would spin; slashing and hacking and just chopping opponents down. I told him it sounded like Ring Daggers to me and grabbed a home-made pair I had, to show him some of the principles I've learned working with them. He said it resembled the same things he seen in basics, only difference was that the blades the guy was using was curved and serated on the back side instead of straight like daggers.

He didn't do any training with any ring-like-daggers, but he did say the officer who was doing the demo said it was a great close quaters combat weapon and something (supposidly) "new".
I do not agree to the whole "new" thing except for the possible use of it in the military, or maybe design, but I still think the overall idea is interesting!

Sounds like he was using Karambits. (Filipino Designed Knives) Jade

“	Originally Posted By: Tat-chi It is a good book in reference to the Chinese Double Daggers. I believe the actual book had been banned several years ago, but I know there are several still out there. I have gotten a few of them off of e-bay. There are also other Double Ring Dagger Forms that haven't been introduced main-stream yet. The Drunken Style favors them very much. Also, the white-crane dagger form is in the book, if you are interested in starting on the actual form. I have trained in the particular system that was mentioned above...only I train under Grandmaster Tim Pickens, who is executing the form in the R.D. Book. Feel free to post any replies..K	”

Which particular style as it is mentioned in your profile that you train in lui he ba fah? Is there a lui he ba fah knife set, i thought it was more or less empty handed fighting?

I think you miss-read. my Brother and I practice the Ng Family Style Six Harmonies Boxing. (Liu He Chuan or Lok Hop Kuen if you prefer) Liu He Ba Fah is a different style.

The Form presented in the Book is the a Hop Gar White Crane Ring Dagger Set which has been adopted in and is now a part of our style.

Hope that helps.

Danny

Oooo Ok. Thought they were both 1 in th same.

That explains it then.

Just learned a double dagger set the other night.

Short, sweet & cool. I dig it. Nice thing is (to me) the way the dagger is used in the set is no different than the way we use our empty hands. Made sense to me, but I know compared to a FMA or IMA player, it's not even close. But I'm digging on it.

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Our current head of style is going to be visiting for a few months, and he intends on teaching the previously "secret" (apparently, he's not really keen on keeping secrets; something about not letting parts of the system disappear) double-dagger form.

Can't wait to learn that.