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Old November 27th, 2006, 03:10 AM
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Chinese Double Dagger Forms

Does anyone have any good links to some Chinese Double Dagger Forms, Thanks in Advance, Jade
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yes thats what i'd like to know too

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Finding a good demo is tough, we have a few forms with the double daggers but nothing we show, don't know of alot of styles that do use them, but this is a Jow Ga form with them...
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check for Wing Lam on youtube.... somebody posted his entire BSL series out there & he's got a BSL double dagger set
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That jow gar looked very much like lama or actually more like CLF.

I have seen a Hung Fut double dagger - liked it more - more fluid - performed by a guy - but really more a girl weapon.

I like the part where it starts with one and halfway into the form, it's splits into two.
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I don't know of any footage, but I do know of a good book on ring daggers. Chinese Ring Daggers: The Ultimate Close-Quarter Weapons by Ricky Pickens.
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Yeah, thats a good book. My martial arts uncle wrote that a couple years ago. I believe its out of print but you might be able to find it on amazon.com or places like that. The military actually contacted Master Pickens and they used some material out of the book for their knife combat drills and such. There is a form within the pages, I believe its a White Crane Form using the double daggers. Like you said Kinetsudragon, its a pretty good book on the subject.
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Yeah, I've seen that White Crane double ring dagger form, and it's a very good form. One I will hopefully learn in the future.
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It is a good book in reference to the Chinese Double Daggers. I believe the actual book had been banned several years ago, but I know there are several still out there. I have gotten a few of them off of e-bay. There are also other Double Ring Dagger Forms that haven't been introduced main-stream yet. The Drunken Style favors them very much. Also, the white-crane dagger form is in the book, if you are interested in starting on the actual form. I have trained in the particular system that was mentioned above...only I train under Grandmaster Tim Pickens, who is executing the form in the R.D. Book. Feel free to post any replies..K
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Finding a good demo is tough, we have a few forms with the double daggers but nothing we show, don't know of alot of styles that do use them, but this is a Jow Ga form with them...

I have seen that clip before. It is radically different to the double daggers form that I know. Our form has lots of low sweeps in it and is physically exhausting (… ok, maybe I should be a bit fitter!)
I am not sure of the origin of the form in that clip. Jow Ga in the US comes from Sigung Chow Biu’s lineage of Chow Gar (Jow Ga), which is the lineage that I am also from. However Jow Ga was introduced to the US by Sifu Dean Chin (who also studied Eagle Claw). Therefore that form itself may have other influences … of course there may also be more than one double dagger form in Chow Gar (Jow Ga)…
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looks very 'flayling arms' to me
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or even flailing arms
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i think you'll find that you can only call them

'flailing arms'

if you have been a practishoner for 50 years

and sleep balanced on your head

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Ahhhhh.......

I just thought "flayling" arms was for "fish flaylers"
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Yes yes, theoretical centerline strategies and chain punching are really effective forms of combat.

Maybe for Mortal Kombat? Ya know, with a Chain Punch finisher . . .

It'll be like "FINISH HIM!!!!"

And you'll be like "Chainpunch"

And it'll be like "FATALITY!!!!"
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