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Old September 8th, 2008, 04:22 PM
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Oh yeah also try and avoid some of the useless belts. You can have testing of a skill level without having 15 or 20 belts.
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Good points Green Horn. I study Shaolin but not Shaolin Do so my teacher uses the cantonese pronounciation for Shaolin which is Sil Lum. He did this for a couple reasons. #1 because we live in the same town as GM Sin and my teacher didn't want people to think we were part of the cult....I mean Shaolin Do. #2 reason is because thats what his teacher calls the style, not Shaolin. 3# it doesn't sound like he was trying to cash in on the name Shaolin like a lot of people try to do. So if you wanted to legitamize Shaolin Do either take the Do off or call it Sil Lum or Sil Lum Do (if you must use the Do in the name)
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And you dont even have to stick with the Shaolin or variants there of you can call it anything
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Yeah, besides everybody is Shaolin this or Shaolin that. Be creative. Also try to work out why techniques in your forms move the way they do, and teach your students the applications.
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And you dont even have to stick with the Shaolin or variants there of you can call it anything


Yeah but you don't want to say your teaching one style and really be teaching something completely different. Thats like teaching Tang Soo Do and saying its Tae Kwon Do.
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As I said in post 304 don't hide the style and not even coming close to saying that. But he could call it something like Atlanta school of martial arts. Or something like that using his city or something of that nature. Do be proud of the style you teach dont ever hide it, but also if you want to people to look at your school differently you have to distance yourself from Sin The. Plus every thrid school out there seems to have Shaolin in it some sort of originality is needed. Other wise life gets boring.
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Thanks to everyone for their suggestions, I appreciate all of the constructive criticism. However some of the responses were based on the misinformation out there that has been spread around and repeated over and over again on the net. For example:
1. I will attempt to gain my Black belt next year and I have never had to attend or pay for an extra class or seminar.
2. SD only has 6 belt colors in the entire style. (not 15 or 20)

That being said, a special thanks to Green-Horn for your response. I actually copied it and saved to a MS Word Doc.
Just in case anyone is intrested, Mullins Shaolin has all of the forms spelled out in case you want a to have a look.
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Does anyone know about Sin The' and the style he teaches? I've heard so many far fetched stories that it is crazy. He's supposed to possess this knowledge of this rare style of kung fu called meteor fist. He claims he can move at the speed of light or some b.s. but he has never taught it because it is to deadly and rare. Anyone heard this story or any other far fetched claims about him? I was just curious and needed a good laugh.

Dude, why'd you act like you didn't know about SD, and then a few pages into the thread admit to being a former student? It's the net so type as you will, but this seemed odd and made me curious.

WS - Good luck with your test. EM Mullins is an awesome MA, and a great person. I'm sure you'll do well.

I've been a SD student for 15 years. I haven't heard the super exaggerated claims about GM Sin until I read JD's entertaining posts on here and the KFM forum. My friend who introduced me to SD was a student during the sport center days that JD recalls so fondly. I asked him if he'd heard anything similar to what JD said. He laughed and said no. He had heard the one about the horse, but the whole "speed of light" story JD shared had him rolling in the floor, he'd never heard that one from anyone in SD.

SD has been discussed across the net for years. The same points are always made.

SD has a questionable mythical lineage. So do other MAs.
SD has some great teachers and students, and some who are less than great. So does every MA.
Some SD schools have more fees than others. So do other MA schools.

Some of the criticisms against SD are valid, some are not. If SD were all bad it would not continue to thrive. This is the Google age, where anyone who can read is able to make an informed decision concerning what ever they do. If SD is good for you, do it. If not, don't. To anyone who thinks that they are doing the public a favor by "exposing SD for the fraud it is" I say...BS. People aren't that clueless. For what ever reason, there are those on the net that enjoy antagonizing people and rehashing the same arguments. I don't see the point. I guess it makes them feel important.

The SD school where I train emphasizes proper stance work and body mechanics. A student must demonstrate more than a superficial understanding of their material before they advance in rank. Applications for the material are taught, discussed, and drilled regularly. Skills learned are pressure tested by sparring at different levels of intensity.

I have competed successfully outside of SD at the local, state, and national level. I have participated in a full contact exhibition match against an amateur MMA fighter at a national event and won. I consider that match a draw because I wouldn't have stayed ahead on the score cards if the match had gone another round. I'm not bragging, just trying to show that when trained and applied correctly, SD techniques are as effective as those in any other MA. BTW, I told GM Sin and EM Leonard about all of my competitions. Neither of them had anything negative to say. I was certainly not told to stop.

As I said on another thread, the people in SD are family to me. I will defend them as such, rather I agree with all that they say and do or not. They have never been anything but good to me.
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Old October 19th, 2008, 04:34 PM
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I can agree to almost everything you said except, "If SD were all bad it would not continue to thrive." Bad institutions can thrive....Just look at wall street. lol
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I can agree to almost everything you said except, "If SD were all bad it would not continue to thrive." Bad institutions can thrive....Just look at wall street. lol

True. Good one. lol
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I had a look at the SD Curriculum. You've got a lot of work to master and retain this in 2 years. No offence to you SD guys, but it just seems ridiculous to try to cram so muck knowledge in a small space of time.
1st Degree Black Belt to 2nd Degree Black Belt
  • Tai Chi Ch'uan
  • Yang Tai Chi (64)
  • Pa Kua Chang
  • Classical Pa Kua
  • He Foo Chon Sin
  • Black Tiger Claws the Heart
  • He Foo Chuan Sen
  • Black Tiger Turns the Body
  • He Foo Huan Sen
  • Black Tiger Flips the Body
  • He Foo Shou Sang
  • Wounded Black Tiger
  • Foong Wang Chue Han Chien
  • Crazy Mad Drunk
  • Tang Lang Tse Ju
  • Praying Mantis Enters the Door
  • Chway Kai
  • Drunken Begger
  • Chway Tao
  • Drunken Broadsword
  • Chiang Su Lian Si
  • Spear Fighting Tech.
  • Luo Chia Chiang
  • Luo Family Spear
  • May Hua Chiang
  • May Flower Spear
  • Yang Chia Chiang
  • Yang Family Spear
  • Se Mien Pa Huan Saung Tao Oo
  • 4 Face 8 Dir. Broadsword
  • Tien Ta Suang Hu Tou Kou
  • Double Tiger Hook Swords Shake Heaven
  • Yen Tse Tien Hsia Tao
  • Swallow Sweeps Down from Heaven
  • U Si Sen Hua
  • 5 Animal Live Training
  • U Si Se Hua
  • 5 Animal Dead Training
  • U Si Nei Hua
  • 5 Animal ShienTien Chi Training
  • I Chin Ching
  • Change Muscle & Tendon
Especially with some of the Neigong exercises there. Anybody able to tell me what is 5 Animal Dead Training? Never heard of it before.
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