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August 31st, 2007, 02:24 PM
|  | Mei Zhou Bao | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Douglasville,GA Style(s): Tang soo do,ShotoKan Year(s): 10
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Seriously, it's not the techniques, it's the strategy/tactics I like, stealth, subterfuge, observation, unpredictability, fast action. | ” | |
If I'm correct, doesn't Leopard have the same stuff?
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August 31st, 2007, 02:29 PM
|  | <--theguychangingmyavatar | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Land of Whales Style(s): Mei Hua Chuan/MMA Year(s): 21
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Rep Power: 220 | | | Most animals have the same strategy and idea behind their movements, but done in different ways.
From what I've experienced so far, Snake is by far the superior of the whole lot in those regards, if you know how to play it properly.
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August 31st, 2007, 02:35 PM
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Or are you just saying that because you're deeply in love with the Snake styles?
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August 31st, 2007, 02:48 PM
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Rep Power: 111 | | | The Leopard I know is pretty solid. I would say that the Snake I know is a bit more sophisticated...in that it has everything Leopard has and more. But then again, I have broken my animals down into actual progression stages as discussed in a thread ealier this year (or last).
However, you don't really find Leopard taught by itself, while you CAN find some Snake specialty styles.
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August 31st, 2007, 02:55 PM
|  | Mei Zhou Bao | | Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Douglasville,GA Style(s): Tang soo do,ShotoKan Year(s): 10
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And to branch off on that --
Snake has specialty styles; do other animals?
I'm not quite up to date on my Animal Kung Fu at the moment..
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August 31st, 2007, 03:16 PM
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Rep Power: 49 | | | One thing about snake style that I haven't seen mentioned here or maybe I just missed it but snake style uses a lot of internal energy and breathing exercises. Do you agree with me on that Mei?
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August 31st, 2007, 03:25 PM
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Rep Power: 220 | | | I do, it is an Internal system, how much that is incorporated into the style itself depends where it is from.
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Emei Snake, is a 50/50 blend of IMA/EMA
Wudan is 90/10 IMA/EMA
Shaolin is the most external of these being a whopping 75 EMA 25 IMA
But breathe with motion, being relaxed until final striking(ie fa jing) and use of chi is a big part of the system.
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August 31st, 2007, 03:34 PM
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Rep Power: 54 | | | It's the most internal of the Animals is it not?
or is dragon slightly more?
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August 31st, 2007, 03:40 PM
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August 31st, 2007, 03:42 PM
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Rep Power: 111 | | | I don't think its fair to catagorize any of the animals as internal or external. Different practitioners and different intents will be the deciding factor there.
However...Snake and Crane have softer qualities, while Tiger and Leopard have harder qualities. Dragon is the split.
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August 31st, 2007, 03:47 PM
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It's how the style was concieved.
If the founder of an animal style wanted it to be internal, you're saying it's not fair to catagorize it as such?
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August 31st, 2007, 03:50 PM
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Rep Power: 220 | | | He's saying that there are other factors, such as how a practitioner plays the style, that will decide how Internal or External an art is.
There are Snake styles that are played more Internal(Wudan) and there are ones played more External (Shaolin) but even then, a stylist could be rooted in more the other way and change Wudan Snake to a more External MA and vice versa with Shaolin
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August 31st, 2007, 03:52 PM
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Rep Power: 54 | | | Ah, I see.
My apologies Wraith.
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September 4th, 2007, 11:46 AM
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To further my point about snake style kung fu here is a web site for someone who teaches snake style. Everything I have said about snake style is in this site. This is just one of the many sites I have found that backs up what I have said about snake not to mention my own teacher who does snake style. Anyone who wants can call one of my teachers who specializes in snake can do so and he will share any information that anyone wants to know about snake or if you have questions about his ligitamacy he will be more than happy to share that info as well. I've spoken to him and he is willing to do so. His name is Sifu Mark Burgher (student of Grandmaster Dr. John Wing Loc Ng).
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September 4th, 2007, 12:11 PM
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This is an article from kung fu magazine that stresses EVERYTHING that I have said snake style is about and contradicts almost everything that mei hua says about snake. you judge and decide who was right and who was wrong about snake style. Also make sure you see the part that says that strikes are delivered to vital pressure point areas using the spear hand strike (just like I stated). What more proof do I need to present to prove that I know what I'm talking about and mei is full of himself.
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