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October 11th, 2007, 03:46 PM
| | Beginner | | Join Date: Oct 2007 Style(s): Wing Chun/Tai Chi
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Rep Power: 0 | | | kung fu beginner form I am new to kung fu and I am struggling to learn the 20 method fighting form (shu er shi fa).
I tend to learn best (especially something with a lot of steps) when I am demonstrated something and then have notes that I reference later.
Can anyone provide me with a step by step tutorial of the 20 method form?
Also a web link or a video would be helpful.
Thank you so much! | 
October 11th, 2007, 05:03 PM
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Rep Power: 153 | | | The best way to learn a form is directly from your teacher. I wouldn't recommend print or video tutorials as primary teaching devices, particularly for beginners.
The hard part of being new to kung fu is learning to move your body in unfamiliar ways -- stance training, basic forms, etc., are all somewhat difficult and painful at first.
Actually -- they'resomewhat painful and difficult all the time. But you do get better with practice.
Why not introduce yourself over in the Newcomer's forum, and tell folks what style of kung fu you do? Chances are there's someone on the forum doing the same style who could give you some tips.
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October 18th, 2007, 11:11 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | There is no reason why a learning aid cannot be used. A book or video of the set being taught is not only helpful, but actually speeds learning because the student can rough out forgotten moves on thier own time, then seek the teacher for the corrections instead of wasting his time making him reteach things you could have gotten on your own.. | 
October 19th, 2007, 07:20 AM
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Rep Power: 153 | | | In my experience, beginners who try to supplement live training with books/videos end up needing far more corrections than those who just stick with the live program.
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October 25th, 2007, 09:31 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | I found an online training program that seems to be a great supplement to my private training.
It is very cost effective and will help me remember and practice what I learn from my private training - which again is only 2x a month. China Hand Kung Fu | 
October 25th, 2007, 09:44 AM
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November 26th, 2007, 10:35 AM
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Rep Power: 49 | | | I don't know this form but a really good begginer kung fu form is Gung Li Chuan (power fist form). It has your basic stances, punches, and kicks. A good form to start with. Does anyone know this form?
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November 26th, 2007, 10:44 AM
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Rep Power: 4 | | | Gung Lik Kuen I teach Gung Lik Kuen as beginner form in the Eagle Claw system. If taught correctly it will develop hard power, soft power, waist power, good stance and foot work, intent etc etc.
If taught correctly it is a good foundation form. | 
November 26th, 2007, 12:11 PM
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Posted By: kjcallaway 
I am new to kung fu and I am struggling to learn the 20 method fighting form (shu er shi fa).
I tend to learn best (especially something with a lot of steps) when I am demonstrated something and then have notes that I reference later.
Can anyone provide me with a step by step tutorial of the 20 method form?
Also a web link or a video would be helpful.
Thank you so much! | ” | |
You're in Carollton or NJ, right? The school you're in has a curriculum unique to them. Your best bet is just get together with some of your classmates that have the set & work with them & also optimize your training time.
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November 27th, 2007, 06:01 AM
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Posted By: ChangFei 
I teach Gung Lik Kuen as beginner form in the Eagle Claw system. If taught correctly it will develop hard power, soft power, waist power, good stance and foot work, intent etc etc.
If taught correctly it is a good foundation form. | ” | |
we also teach Tan Tui from the start (and keep doing that a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time  )
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November 27th, 2007, 01:16 PM
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November 27th, 2007, 04:55 PM
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Rep Power: 111 | | | I would suggest Tan Tui before Gung Li.
I consider the Chin Woo version of Gung Li to be more of an intermediate form.
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