7 star praying mantis

I'm not to familiar with mantis style, I have learned one form from mantis style from a friend. Can someone tell me a little bit ablout the techniques of the mantis style such as what kind of strikes does it use besides mantis claw and what areas of the body does the mantis strike. The mantis claw is used for hooking, right? As well as striking?

Any info would be appreciated.

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Mark

there are a few really great mantis players here on the DL who can help you out. I will post later on when I have more time.

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I can tell you about our style of mantis. This is from Sifu Rober Hui:

The dynamics of CCK TCPM focus on the practical applications while offering aesthetically pleasing forms for spectators. It is not only an agile long-range style, but also one that is comfortable with close-range combat. It is imperative to remember that CCK TCPM is primarily a striking art with a highly developed progressive indirect attack approach. There is also a ground fighting aspect that is lesser known. In actual applications, the power of hand strikes is generated from the balls of the feet, through the lower limbs to the spine, and delivered through the upper limbs. Most hand strikes in this style have “crack of the whip” type of power not unlike those found in Taijiquan. Kicks are delivered low to medium height as part of the offence or defense rather than an independent act taking into account balance and mobility. They are often blended with footwork as an obstructive or destructive measure to deny the opponent of an operational base of support. Takedowns, which require extensive knowledge of balance and leverage, are usually the third act of combat. They are executed with decisive actions that are designed to maim and inflict damage. Acupoints and leverage are utilized to maximize the effects of joint manipulations and other grappling moves, collectively known as Chin Na in Chinese martial arts. Although the elements mentioned are quite powerful individually, combining them as Shou Fa (combinations) in different sequences really made them most formidable. Despite of the myriad combinations, they all adhere to the Twelve Characters Principles and utilize the Eight Basic Stances that are core elements found in any northern Praying Mantis styles. Just as every problem has a solution, it is also true that every combination can either be neutralized or even capitalized by a counter. The Shou Fa platform in CCK TCPM is as significant as Chi Sao (sticky hand) in Wing Chun system to transmit the essence of the CCK TCPM combat skills. However, the main objective in CCK TCPM Shou Fa is to train the free flow of combat elements with lightening speed and fluid grace. “Combinations are pronged to be countered, only combinations with tremendous velocity can not be countered,” is a significant CCK TCPM adage. This style recognizes that attribute development (qualities) such as speed is paramount to the appreciation of its highly refined techniques; therefore, conditioning is of utmost importance, and is always at the core of very practice session.

Taijiquan forms of CCK TCPM help the practitioners to listen, to follow, to adhere, to neutralize, and to seize opponent’s energy in conjunction with the Mantis techniques. This helps the stylist better capitalize any rigidity found in opponent at which point he will use the sixth discipline found in Taijiquan - Fajing (issuing power). It is therefore ideal for smaller physique exponent. Although Mantis has its unique internal training aspect, it is quite physically demanding as it is truly intended for fight training. The Taiji curriculum in CCK TCPM on the other hand is suitable for general health exercise and it is ideal for all ages to train. The harmonious balance of lightening power and fluid grace in techniques is the reason for CCK TCPM to be recognized as both a hard and soft style.

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My kung fu uncle, Randy Choy has some good mantis articles that talk more about the strikes and techniques involved in the various hand and weapons forms. (see articles in bold)

• Part 1: training intelligently; circular movement; dantien; power; forgotten principles
• Part 2: natural theory; 13 sections of Chen; white goose or white crane; and push-hands
• Part 3: interpreting energy through Taiji push-hands
• Part 4: training in Cannon Fist boxing
• Part 5: elbow strikes in various forms
• Part 6: training in Eight Footwork boxing
• Part 7: analyzing Thrusting Foot boxing
• Part 8: analyzing Intercepting Fist boxing
• Part 9: Praying Mantis Grand Ultimate Sword
• Part 10: Taiji and Praying Mantis Grand Ultimate Spear
• Part 11: Taiji Grand Ultimate Fan
• Part 12: Tiger Head Double Hook Swords
• Part 13: Continuous Winding Sword
• Part 14: Negative Hand Staff
• Part 15: Spring and Autumn Large Knife
• Part 16: Eight Diagram Obstructing Door Knife
• Part 17: Lo Family Sword (as used in Zatoichi movies)
• Part 18: Chinese Long Handle Battle Axe
• Part 19: Chinese Double Crutches (as seen in "Legendary Weapons of China" movie)
• Part 20: The Eight Han Dynasty Daoist Exercises

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In what little PM I've done, strikes weren't done with the hook hand except with the ocassional flicking or grab. The strikes were mainly fists, palms, elbows, forearms, legs, knees & feet. The hooking with the hand was a grabbing/controlling mechanism that were used to set up other strikes or in tandem with other strikes as a control for the strike.

In Bai Yuen Tao Tou, I think I remember (long time since I've done the set or PM training) striking with the hook hand, but with the back of the wrist diagonally upwards, not with the fingers of the hook.

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Thanks Guys For The Info.

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Mark

“	Originally Posted By: clfsean but with the back of the wrist diagonally upwards, not with the fingers of the hook.	”

Yes, you can hit or shove with the back of the hook...the bump/wristbone part, not the back of the hand or fingers.

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“	Originally Posted By: TaichiMantis Yes, you can hit or shove with the back of the hook...the bump/wristbone part, not the back of the hand or fingers.	”

We call that a chicken wrist strike. It's very good for striking the temple area.

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well,..about the only thing I can add to the above correct info.' is that, 7-Star Mantis in Chinese is; 'Chi-Xing Tong-Long' ,...lol' (in-case you were interested?) Coach Li

“	Originally Posted By: Li Ma-Keh well,..about the only thing I can add to the above correct info.' is that, 7-Star Mantis in Chinese is; 'Chi-Xing Tong-Long' ,...lol' (in-case you were interested?) Coach Li	”

or...Qixing Tanglang...um...er Qi Xing Tang Lang...

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Chat Sing Tang Lang in the language of the rebellious!!!

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Lol

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