Please share your experience with Choy Lay fut

One pattern I seem to be keep running into after watching a multitude of CLF videos on youtube is that a lot of people seem to lack "intent" in their forms/demos/combos. It's not just flailing your arm around. You need proper jing, structure, and put your weight behind your fists.

I can say that IMHO, I don't see enough CLF people putting their "weight" behind their strikes.

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“	Originally Posted By: KungFuMan I also learned a praying mantis fist style from watching the actual insect itself. This was before I actually learned some seven star mantis.	”

Youtube isn't the whole of the world.

I have a difficult time telling whether someone's hitting hard just by watching a form or combo, without seeing them hit a bag. I can only REALLY tell by feeling it myself, either with them hitting me or while I'm holding a focus mitt.

either go to a Martial arts school and check it out or dont either way get off the pot

“	Originally Posted By: CLF Devil If you can't fight with CLF after two years you're doing something wrong.	”

I have to agree with you. CLF has all the necessary basics to enable you to become efficient if you put the effort in.

effort is the secert to most success.

Yeah and a Sifu that doesn't expect you to "teach yourself."

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“	Originally Posted By: KungFuMan I also learned a praying mantis fist style from watching the actual insect itself. This was before I actually learned some seven star mantis.	”

2 years is a decent amount of time to learn how to fight...... but teaching is something entirely different. I'll go out on the limb and say that 2 years of training means squat when it comes to teaching what you have learned.

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“	Originally Posted By: jawsman 2 years is a decent amount of time to learn how to fight...... but teaching is something entirely different. I'll go out on the limb and say that 2 years of training means squat when it comes to teaching what you have learned.	”

I agree. Two yrs isn't enough time to learn any thing good enough to teach no matter what style you teach.

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“	Originally Posted By: jawsman 2 years is a decent amount of time to learn how to fight...... but teaching is something entirely different. I'll go out on the limb and say that 2 years of training means squat when it comes to teaching what you have learned.	”

Yep.

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“	Originally Posted By: clfsean I think the guy in Texas is from TMW's lineage originally & then went to Buk Sing. I'm not sure though. Either way, CLF is a good way to go. You could also go off campus to Sam Ng's school in Chicago or one his student's depending on location to the university. Ng Family Chinese Martial Arts Association - Contact Information or Home	”

I agree that CLF is a great way to go. It can be a stunning martial art in more ways than one. Santanu Rahman Austin website says:

"He has trained extensively with and assisted for the Ng Family Chinese Martial Arts Association (Chicago, IL), and currently holds an instructor status (and continues training) with the Tatwong Kung-Fu Academy (San Francisco, CA)."

Question arises, for me, as to why the man moved from the Ng Family organization if he lived in Illinois and put in so much effort with them, unless he lived in California for a long time too, after that. I don't know. I gave a quick flyby and wasn't jumping up and down, but he seems like an okay person. I got the impression that Santanu Rahman was moving on from Illinois to Texas. Right? Both TMW and Sam Ng are Hung Sing CLF. He claims TMW as his current teacher.

I haven't met Sam Ng, though I had seen his website. If it were me, I'd be intuitively more interested in Ng family. If you're wanting something more casual, then the other school might be a better choice. The idea is that you be happy in what you're doing, and I think you want that too. Take a look around. Time's a wastin'.

Be that as it may, the people in charge are hardly seasoned masters. But, that might not be what you want. It's okay to want something else. Have you ever considered joining a good gym, putting on the gloves and boxing?

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“	Originally Posted By: passingthru Both TMW and Sam Ng are Hung Sing CLF. He claims TMW as his current teacher.	”

There's at least 3 different Hung Sing schools in CLF, each use a different character for Hung & each a little different.

Kinda like going to Wendy's & getting a burger... ok, but which one? They're all burgers, but what type?

LKH's Hung Sing has a Chan Family influence on it. Sam Ng's from what little I've seen of it has none to very little that I can see visibly.

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I was writing what they said about themselves in the most general way. I have no intent to compare one with the other. I know what you mean about they're all being burgers.

The spirit of the art and the practice can be separated by material best left to eyes other than mine, which can also be beautiful. I don't know Chinese at all. I'm hopeless with languages, unless I were dumped in a place and had to learn it as a child would.

Major differences occur when it comes to how many forms a given school line demands. That focus, the true art of the teacher, and the character of the teacher are most important. Also, the nature of the student and what is sought. The student eventually discovers what is best and determines needs. It is good that there are forums like this where someone can come in an ask. Going from school to school in an inexperienced state is difficult because they are all The Best. One might think that there is nothing else, lol.

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"I'm so proud, I've got tears flying out off my butt" (chief108)