Kung Fu VS Karate...

Not by chance a wrestler, are you Unk?

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Are you a psychic or something?

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Wolfgang says:

I could think of a million better things to do in Japan for a month besides jumping off of picnic tables. - x893

Karate is good in what it does. Unfotunetly, your compaing apples and oranges. Although, both have a basis in the martial arts, neither have the same approach to the same situation.
Kung fu looks at the situation and says that if I get behind you, I can defeat you.
Karate looks at it in the sence of I will go through you.
This is a simplified explanation and both use these ideas to a lesser or greater degree. However, They way they achieve this end result is different.
The question isn't so much wich is better, but who is more inventive with the proper technique they use.
There's nothing worse than a Martial artist who is sloppy with there technique. This is a person who's begging to get hurt or they will unfortuneltly hurt someone else.
As to the Jackie chan and Jet li's of the world. Yes, there is movie magic in some of these movies. However, there is also some very real martial arts imployed as well. It's up to you to decide wich is wich.

Also most Kung Fu clubs know a days are teaching wushu. This was a true martial art at one time, but today it's little better than dance class with out any basis on technique, or actual martial art form. Thus, many kung fu guys think they know what there doing when they actually have no basis in reality at all.
Karate guys are good, but are usualy one deminsional fighter who are not trained are taught to be inventive with the moves they're taught. Not to say this isn't an effective system, but it is limited in what it can do.
So Kartate vs. Kung fu? Like many things it comes down to the practioner.

Wow dude, your knowledge of martial arts once again gets proven as little at all.

Not only have you so miscalculated kung fu and karate as to be just pure wrong in your judgement, but you description of kung fu schools as only teaching modern wushu is pure malarchy.

I'd suggest actually getting some experience and knowledge before once again proving you know nothing about what you speak.

It's funny that you claim KF guys don't know what they're doing when you've repeatedly been proven by everyone here as being wrong and not knowing what you're talking about.

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The one that wins the fight is the one that walks away.

I'm not wrong. As a matter of truth and fact. I didn't say all Kung fu schools teach wushu wich is based mostly on forms that are like a dance. I said most are like this. Hence why, some martial artists have little respect for Kung fu. And yes, I do know what I'm talking about when it comes to wushu.
Watch fearless. This is exactly what the Ging wu is all about.
I actualy personaly feel that Kung Fu is a great martial art. In fact I feel it to be superior to other systems. However, you need someone who knows what they are teaching. This is true of all martial arts as well.

You unfortunetly, are the one who comes across as the one who has little or no experience with the martial arts. You continualy tell me and others that technique is not important. This is a joke. Technique is very important. A martial artist with great technique is one who can and does perform many of the feats that you and others believe to be impossible.

For example: Bruce Lee and his one inch punch.
Jackie chan's Drunken Kung fu. (Although, some what over the top much of it is in fact based on fact.)
Jet Li's movies do have a fair amount of movie magic, but 90% of it is true.
Bruce Lee at his hey day was able to throw aproxametly 13 to 18 punches per second.
Jet Li is probably around 25 to 30.
I'm near the 10 to twelve range. As well I trained with people who where near the 20 to 25 range. Also my master was throwing knife hands in excess of 50.

This is all from practing and learning proper technique. Yes, it's repetive, however if your inventive about how you use this strikes you can learn alot about the move.
This is also why such things as animal systems work and so do pressure points. Just because YOU don't know how to make it work doesn't mean it doesn't work.

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Wolfgang says:

I could think of a million better things to do in Japan for a month besides jumping off of picnic tables. - x893

MH & Animal, it's no use fussing about who's better, who's worse, in an online forum. Doesn't matter arguing who knows less, which celebrity throws the fastest punches, blah blah blah. You're both arguing about a physical sport -- in a non-physical environment! Neither of you will prove anything here.

So just offer your opinions, don't get personal about it. If you want to back up any claims, post a vid on youtube (honestly I do want to see a person who can throw 10-12 good punches in one second).

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"Pain can be a great teacher of compassion and humility."~ Unkotare-san

"Whatever the case, it proves that countless disasters can be prevented by simply assuming everyone you're working with is a moron." ~ Adam Brown, 5 Tiny Mistakes...

Yeah that would be something to see.

Where do they keep coming from?!?!?!!?!?

Peace-
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Sorry, I didn't meant o get to personal or attack one's character. However, I do get passionate about things I have seen and have experience in.
I hope I diddn't tread on anyone's beliefs of feelings.

a good fighter in any style will beat a bad one in any style.its not the art but the man,a lot of black belts ,and a lot of instructors stop training and just teach,it doesnt make what the know and can teach any less,indeed ive traind with some great grand masters in there 80s,im sure thay dont have the phisical abbillity to have a real fight but what thay can teach you is priceless

LOL Sorry but i didnt bother reading the whole thing. Too much to read. But i like both! Karate (and i mean the non-competition point sparring type), has good body conditioning, endurance, intent, power etc. Looking at kyokushin tournaments have been inspiring. Though some sport karate gives karate a bad name, too much tkd jumpy footwork and shifting stances, some are just ridiculous to watch, especially point sparring. Kungfu i guess in a sense is similar, depends on what you train and how you train. Kung fu can have all the good things that karate can bring, and can be versatile. So yep i'd say use both and learn all the good qualities each art brings.. dont be disadvantaged. BUT NEVER GO AND DO A POINT SPARRING MATCH! NEVER!!!!!!!

“	Originally Posted By: traphiccc BUT NEVER GO AND DO A POINT SPARRING MATCH! NEVER!!!!!!!	”

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