Massachusetts Voters

“	Originally Posted By: Unkotare You can apply that pointless question to absolutely any illegal behavior.	”

You could but I am not. The pointless question remains unanswered.

you'll be lucky to get a sensible answer from him

his prejudices are too strong to allow reason to interfere with his paranoid worldview

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"...any theory that satisfies the facts demands assumptions which are completely absurd."

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“	Originally Posted By: Nik It was on a medical report on german TV, and they have shown examples. It was not about smoking in general, but TOO HIGH intake of THC. There are artificially grown versions that have 10-20 times the concentration of THC in the leafs, so the impact is a LOT higher than with what the consumers were used to. The study has shown clearly that with a certain dose, the brain ceizes to naturally develop like normal during pubercy. The extreme examples were teens who were unable to dress or bind their shoes, simply because they forgot they wanted to while doing it. This is not about half a joint a day, but about heavy users who smoke very potent products over a long period of time several times a day. That kind of people does not fall into the "hard working" category, but into the kind who hardly manages to produce a remotely sane sentence that does not revolve around pot.	”

...anyways...

The legalization of marijuana could pose a very solid form of income from the government and free up expenses.

There is an awful number of inmates that are in prison as a non-violent drug abuser, someone that was caught carrying whatever they had - too many times. This doesn't necessarily relate to all people that carried pot, but you have to imagine, being the #1 most illicitly used drug in the U.S., most of those dudes are potheads. You free up prison space in the already immensely overcrowded prison facilities and you free up money by not having to shelter them, feed them, entertain them, etc.

The government also banks on taxing the substance. An estimated 80,000,000 Americans have smoked pot (not habitually, but lets just say for argument's sake that 50% of them smoke weed habitually)

40,000,000 throwing down money on a weekly basis on maybe a tax charge of $3.... that's a lot of green. Thats $120M dollars. Add that up for a years worth (even assuming they buy once a week).... that's a good deal of cash for sure.

The numbers are likely smaller than that, but it's definitely enough to make money off it and to save money by not incarcerating thousands of non-violent pot smokers.

Just my .2c

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- Chi Kung

What nonsense. The great, great majority of folks doing hard time for drugs either were involved at least with other drugs as well as pot (oh, but pot has nothing to do with harder drugs w e hear) or were arrested with massive amounts of weed for the purposes of distribution.

We can tax it! Great! We can sell crack and anthrax and pet elephants and tax those too! Brilliant!

And all the lawsuits that are just around the corner over what is an ounce and what is just a little more or less won't cost anything or clog up the court system more. And developing new procedures and technology so cops making traffic stops can try to determine what is 'too stoned' to drive won't cost anything.

All this will certainly improve and enrich society. All so some burnouts can giggle at SpongeBob or some such nonsense. How 'progressive.'

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Wolfgang says:

I could think of a million better things to do in Japan for a month besides jumping off of picnic tables. - x893

This is the same kind of nonsense argument thats running amok for gun control.

How exactly do you suggest the drug problem handled. Keep on throwing people in prisons that are already 40% over crowded.

Education is slow and noone who does not smoke is going to suddenly start because of this law.

Just like no criminal is going to get rid of their illegal firearms because the gov passes strickter gun laws or outlaws firearms entirely.

Are you one of those "not in my backyard" people? Want more criminals taken off the street as long as they dont have to build a prison near you or other wise interfere with your view of the skyline?

What IS your proposition then?

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“	Originally Posted By: Unkotare What nonsense. The great, great majority of folks doing hard time for drugs either were involved at least with other drugs as well as pot (oh, but pot has nothing to do with harder drugs w e hear) or were arrested with massive amounts of weed for the purposes of distribution. We can tax it! Great! We can sell crack and anthrax and pet elephants and tax those too! Brilliant! And all the lawsuits that are just around the corner over what is an ounce and what is just a little more or less won't cost anything or clog up the court system more. And developing new procedures and technology so cops making traffic stops can try to determine what is 'too stoned' to drive won't cost anything. All this will certainly improve and enrich society. All so some burnouts can giggle at SpongeBob or some such nonsense. How 'progressive.'	”

An ounce is 28 grams. That's all it ever will be.

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- Chi Kung

Sure. Let the lawyers have a shot at it and see where that goes.

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Wolfgang says:

I could think of a million better things to do in Japan for a month besides jumping off of picnic tables. - x893

“	Originally Posted By: GuiLongUmar How exactly do you suggest the drug problem handled. Keep on throwing people in prisons that are already 40% over crowded.	”

Screw it then, eliminate all laws and tear down all prisons. What could go wrong?

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Wolfgang says:

I could think of a million better things to do in Japan for a month besides jumping off of picnic tables. - x893

moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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"...any theory that satisfies the facts demands assumptions which are completely absurd."

Aleister Crowley

While i may question your judgment Pope, i can certainly agree that there is no other rational response.

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"...any theory that satisfies the facts demands assumptions which are completely absurd."

Aleister Crowley

THREAD ALERT TO ALL POSTERS ON THIS THREAD

there is no point in expressing your opinion as it will be disreguarded

and either hyperbole will be resorted to so as to drown out any reason

or sarcasm will be used to avoid the issue at hand

thankyou

you have been warned

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"...any theory that satisfies the facts demands assumptions which are completely absurd."

Aleister Crowley

“	Originally Posted By: Unkotare Screw it then, eliminate all laws and tear down all prisons. What could go wrong?	”

As you are no doubt well aware - that is not what is being suggested.

If alcohol and tobacco, despite overwhelming evidence that they are harmful substances, are tolerable owing to a degree of "social acceptance" - then it's feasible that cannabis could be given that same status. If, however, we are being protected from consumption of harmful substances for our own good - then why is tobacco and alcohol still available to the public?

That statement isn't particularly pro cannabis is it?

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Cling to nothing, except your Lego...

shut up SWK you are obviuosly a bongo bashing heathen set on pulling down society to the level of mud eating slugs

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"...any theory that satisfies the facts demands assumptions which are completely absurd."

Aleister Crowley

Unk must have had a bad run in with a pot smokin hippey back in the day and it's scarred him.

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