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January 10th, 2008, 11:07 AM
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Posted By: Nik 
It's not wether he's "cool", or if he could do anything he did in movies against anyone in real life. It's about hogwash claims like "his stepfather was asleep when testing so he didn't see all the crap he did and gave him the belt anyways". Not much different from "Obama went to a muslim radical suicide bomber school at age 4 in Indonesia, because it was written on the internet". | ” | |
Look it up, there are numerous sources that verify the same thing, the guy testing him was a notoriously lazy individual and he fell asleep during Seagull's test and just awarded him the black belt. There are numerous sources who verify that and many have high ranks in Aikido and are well known names who do not create stories to slander or bolster their fame, unlike Seagull.
As far as his movies go, I liked Marked for Death, though that one was pretty sweet. Avoid The Patriot as that one just sucked and none of the fighting in it was even done by him | 
January 10th, 2008, 11:19 AM
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Rep Power: 36 | | | I'm glad to see that I have opened up a nice, juicy can-o-worms here at Dragon's List. Seagal's "technique" aside, his claims of mastery-however realistic or otherwise-do not excuse him for being a large, economy-sized douche. I may be wrong, but I think that is what the premise of the initial rant was all along: Steven Seagal's douchiness. So, Dog1, please relax and soak up the quite laughable information on the pony-tailed one, as if it were the rays of a warm spring sun. Could Seagal beat the crap out of the likes of someone like me or MH? Maybe...probably, who gives a flip? I feel confident that we are at least better-behaved individuals than he. Hopefully, even you are, my new friend. Aspiring to be like Seagal in the dojo, (while odd, yet who am I to detract from another's dreams?) is one thing. Defending his extracurricular activities, things ranging from possible rackateering, spousal abuse, assault, threats, etc., is a horse of a much different-and putrid-color.
BTW, MH, I quite enjoy your new avatar. What does the caption say?
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January 10th, 2008, 11:33 AM
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Posted By: WuSung 
I'm glad to see that I have opened up a nice, juicy can-o-worms here at Dragon's List. Seagal's "technique" aside, his claims of mastery-however realistic or otherwise-do not excuse him for being a large, economy-sized douche. I may be wrong, but I think that is what the premise of the initial rant was all along: Steven Seagal's douchiness. So, Dog1, please relax and soak up the quite laughable information on the pony-tailed one, as if it were the rays of a warm spring sun. Could Seagal beat the crap out of the likes of someone like me or MH? Maybe...probably, who gives a flip? I feel confident that we are at least better-behaved individuals than he. Hopefully, even you are, my new friend. Aspiring to be like Seagal in the dojo, (while odd, yet who am I to detract from another's dreams?) is one thing. Defending his extracurricular activities, things ranging from possible rackateering, spousal abuse, assault, threats, etc., is a horse of a much different-and putrid-color.
BTW, MH, I quite enjoy your new avatar. What does the caption say?
-Wu | ” | | 
Great post
As for my avatar it says "Jiu Jitsu, apparently it's somewhere in this picture"
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January 10th, 2008, 12:09 PM
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January 10th, 2008, 03:57 PM
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Posted By: Nik 
It's not wether he's "cool", or if he could do anything he did in movies against anyone in real life. It's about hogwash claims like "his stepfather was asleep when testing so he didn't see all the crap he did and gave him the belt anyways". Not much different from "Obama went to a muslim radical suicide bomber school at age 4 in Indonesia, because it was written on the internet". | ” | |
obama went to a muslim school and IS a muslim - read all about it Debbie Schlussel
teachers know if their students are black belt material way before the rank test - maybe the teacher was sleeping off a cold or a hangover - either way looking at seagulls movement its obvious hes a black belt and has been for years - ive seen incredible practitioners who were douches in real life cant argue that and many of them have huge egos and practice the dark side of the ma - im not going to defend his personal life which i know nothing about but hes a good practitioner which is separate from all that other juicy gossip - we all know musashi had issues, a bad man and was a cold blooded killer but as a ma he was exceptional | 
January 10th, 2008, 04:08 PM
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Rep Power: 49 | | | I have to agree with dog1.....he may have bad morals in his personal life but I think he has some good martial art skills, or at least he used to. I haven't seen much of him in the past few years. Seems like all his movies go straight to DVD now. I don't think his personal life should make your opinion of his martial skill. To be as confident in his fighting as he is and to make challenges like he has he must think he can back it up. Either that or he's an idiot.
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January 10th, 2008, 04:16 PM
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Darth Steven? Darth Segal? Nah...doesn't quite sound right.
Its pretty tough to evaluate skill from a YouTube thread or from Hollywood Motion Pictures. You actually have to cross hands with the person...of course many people have and have related those experiences.
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January 11th, 2008, 01:10 PM
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ahhh
so your bonkers as well
do you live in the same vacuum as jade?
incidentally i have a black belt
so you'd better not disrespect my low opinion of you
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January 11th, 2008, 01:16 PM
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dog : "obama went to a muslim school and IS a muslim - read all about it"
ahhh
so your bonkers as well
do you live in the same vacuum as jade?
incidentally i have a black belt
so you'd better not disrespect my low opinion of you | ” | |   
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January 11th, 2008, 01:47 PM
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January 11th, 2008, 02:35 PM
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Rep Power: 49 | | | Obama is Muslim, I don't care if he says he's Christion or not. If it looks Muslim, talks Muslim, has a Muslim name, and went to a Muslim school then it must be Muslim. The sad thing is these young people are being suckered in by him. It's like Jim Jones. They think he's "cool".
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January 11th, 2008, 03:24 PM
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Obama is Muslim, I don't care if he says he's Christion or not. If it looks Muslim, talks Muslim, has a Muslim name, and went to a Muslim school then it must be Muslim. The sad thing is these young people are being suckered in by him. It's like Jim Jones. They think he's "cool". | ” | |
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January 11th, 2008, 05:28 PM
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damn...
we're running outta prizes for and it's only jan 11 
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January 12th, 2008, 11:45 AM
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Posted By: Jade_Dragon_03 
Obama is Muslim, I don't care if he says he's Christion or not. If it looks Muslim, talks Muslim, has a Muslim name, and went to a Muslim school then it must be Muslim. The sad thing is these young people are being suckered in by him. It's like Jim Jones. They think he's "cool". | ” | |
I hope you do realize how stupidly ignorant, racist, bigoted and moronic this post is, yes?
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January 12th, 2008, 03:14 PM
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obama went to a muslim school and IS a muslim - read all about it | ” | |
Ok, we wasted enough time with that nonsense elsewhere, thanks.
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