Marijuana from a martial arts perspective?

Many good points Wu, but just because it hasn't had a positive inpact on your train does not mean it hasn't for others, today or on some of the founding fathers of all styles!

“	Originally Posted By: SpearHead79 Taking a puff and practicing on your own time is different than saying " YO, what happening Sifu, give me someskin!" when you show up for class. I would hope to show more respect to my Sifu than that. And how many instructors are going to admit to using with such a dark cloud hanging over the topic of canabis anyway. Back in the 40's , when Reefer Maddness came out, they believed you went crazy and got violent, which isn't true, but further studies have showed that there are plenty of very good uses for canabis. It has been proven to be one of the best pain killers in the world, and thats why they give it to cancer patiants, that and it gives them the munches.	”

These are good points.

The only thing I question is it's usefulness as a pain killer, for me(don't know about any of you others who've smoked it) it makes me more sensitive and so I feel pain alot more when on it than off.

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I will most def. heed your warnings though, they are good ones!

They give it to Kemo patients for pain, hunger, upset stomach, and a sleep aid. Thats at least why they gave it to my aunt. She loved it, slept better, gained weight, and lived a happier life till the end.

I'll be honest, I suspect, that (like me when I used to smoke weed) - you're defending something you like doing 'cos you want to keep doing it. I also can't help but think you are deluded in thinking this way. Regarding the medical uses, that's fine too. This isn't about weed consumption in general, it's specifically about whether or not it is useful in MA! My warning against skunk is just a caution, and you can take that how you want.

Sleep when tired, eat when hungry, train when alert, smoke when chilling.

As an aside - I will not concede at any point on this issue, not least because this public forum is open to young people, and I don't think it's good for experienced MA'ists to give the impression it's okay to get stoned and train - regardless of personal experience. End of.

Here's an alternative question: Do you guys think smoking would help you meditate?

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Change seats! Good topic change I like it! In my opinion yes! Which kinda instilles your point that you are not focased enough to train but zoned out enough to meditate. On a dif note I have to go everyone I enjoyed our chat and will check up on the chat. Everyone remember that the Future is Presently Passing so don't miss any of it. Coiu!!!

“	Originally Posted By: SunWuKung As an aside - I will not concede at any point on this issue, not least because this public forum is open to young people, and I don't think it's good for experienced MA'ists to give the impression it's okay to get stoned and train - regardless of personal experience. End of.	”

I agree, a sober mind sees more and trains smarter, I only ever tried smoking and training once and once was enough, I couldn't focus enough or move properly.

“	Here's an alternative question: Do you guys think smoking would help you meditate?	”

If done in moderation, yes it can, if you use just a tad too much it distracts more than it helps and thus disrupts meditation

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“	Originally Posted By: Mei Hua If done in moderation, yes it can, if you use just a tad too much it distracts more than it helps and thus disrupts meditation	”

And if you use too much, pass out as soon as you close your eyes

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Na, I never pass out

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“	Originally Posted By: SpearHead79 Change seats! Good topic change I like it! In my opinion yes! Which kinda instilles your point that you are not focased enough to train but zoned out enough to meditate.	”

Perhaps you've misunderstood me. I personally think meditation requires you to be alert - not zoned out - as if it were the last minute of your life. The trick is to be relaxed at the same time!

I think weed could be intepreted as helping because it makes you disengage from problems that are distracting, but that (IMO) is perhaps not the purpose of meditating. Meditating should make you able to accommodate those problems, sublimate the problems, not ignore them.

So, here's another question - what do you think is the purpose of meditation?

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“	Originally Posted By: SunWuKung So, here's another question - what do you think is the purpose of meditation?	”

Focus the mind, enable the mind/body to deal with and dispel the issues that disturb it, heighten the functions of the mind/senses in a natural way, make the mind work smoother, relax the body.

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“	Originally Posted By: Mei Hua Focus the mind, enable the mind/body to deal with and dispel the issues that disturb it, heighten the functions of the mind/senses in a natural way, make the mind work smoother, relax the body.	”

that, in a nutshell, is why I think pot is no good in either MA or meditation.

I'd be interested to hear j100's views on weed and yoga. Do you think weed can help your yoga?

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I do not disagree with your view.

I think it's more a hindrance for such purposes than a help.
I think it does have other uses and so could be applied in those manners.

But in the grand scheme of things, to each their own, it might be useful to some while not to others, to settle this once and for all, on the 16th half of us will get giffed and the other half will stay sober, then we'll battle it out and see what happens

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you know, i was thinking the same thing...


anyway

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oh puleese

you never heard of shiva

jeeeeeeeeeeeeesus

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