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ChuanFaChick · #46 (**permalink**) March 11th, 2005, 08:28 AM

“	Originally Posted By: yhuangbi Yo check out #2..... sounds like good info.... just a new perspective thats all. TAO OF BALANCED DIET: REGULAR FOOD DIET FOR HEALTH AND BEAUTY THE EIGHT CAUSES OF WEIGHT PROBLEMS 2. Water Retention The kidneys are the filters that separate waste water from the blood. So the amount of water filtered out depends on how well your kidneys are functioning. Normal kidneys can filter approximately six cups of water in twenty-four hours. (It is possible for them to filter a larger volume but this requires them to work harder, and the increased strain eventually weakens them.	”

Okay, so I got to this point in your thread, and stopped reading, because this is BS. My doctor told me when I was younger that I needed to get more liquids than a normal person. So I had to drink at least five 8oz glasses of water a day (up to ten), and get about the same amount of liquid through other sources. As an inquisitive child I asked what a normal person needed to drink, to which his reply was four to eight 8oz glasses of water.

Also, most people hardly drink any straight water, which your body needs to flush out your system.

john100 · #47 (**permalink**) March 11th, 2005, 11:31 AM

Surely your body has a mechanism to tell you how much liquid you need, you get thirsty.

This is gonna make me rich. The taoist cellulite cure.

Spend a lot of time in the sauna, you need to make sure all the fresh liquid in your diet doesn't add to the stagnant water already in your body.

While in the sauna drink lots of gin. It's a diuretic and will eliminate the stagnant water and along with it the cellulite.

It's easy, it cures cellulite, it's got a phony philosophical angle, and it involves drinking loads of alcohol. All I need to do is pad it up to 300 pages, maybe a load of nonsense about the best alcohol for body type, and I've got a best selling diet book.

More seriously, I don't think the eight glasses thing is a hard and fast rule. There's been a lot of publicity given to 'flushing your system' because people want some simple, safe, health advice, and guzzling water can't hurt too much and might help. There have been cases of people forgetting you also flush salts along with the water and getting exhaustion. It was a real problem when they first publicised the fact E's could make you dance till you collapsed from dehydration.

I was taught that you should train at a level where you build up and maintain a very fine layer of sweat on the body and avoid wiping it away or training so hard it ran off. At the end of training you should wait 15 min after cooldown before showering so your body can reabsorb any essential salts sweated out. I've also been told that as you train more your body learns to release less sweat and less salts in the sweat. Any one know the science on that?

ChuanFaChick · #48 (**permalink**) March 12th, 2005, 12:21 AM

Or you could just eat properly prior to and following training (that way you don't end up re-absorbing the same toxins again along with the salts, etc).

Miy theroy about the sweating less is that it's similar to how your body copes from any other strain you put on it. After a while your body adapts to your needs, to a certian degree.

Tyciol · #49 (**permalink**) March 21st, 2005, 11:56 PM

“	Originally Posted By: yhuangbi Normal kidneys can filter approximately six cups of water in twenty-four hours. (It is possible for them to filter a larger volume but this requires them to work harder, and the increased strain eventually weakens them.) So if your kidneys are normal, you can drink six cups of water a day and you will break even. But if you drink more than what your kidneys can handle―and remember: for most people the limit is six cups a day―this water will remain in your body. It will travel back into the blood stream to be eliminated through the skin by perspiration. However, if you have few opportunities to perspire (cold weather, no exercise, etc.), the water will be retained in your skin. As more and more waste water comes to the area of your skin where water is already being retained, the tissue in that area bloats up to receive the incoming water. This “stagnant” water remains, retaining even more wastes and associated toxins. This accumulated waste water―considered as urine―may stay in this area for a day, a month, even a year or more. After a period of time, this water becomes mucous. [If you wish to see externally what is hidden internally within the body try the following experiment: fill a glass with water and leave it undisturbed; if the water evaporates refill it; repeat this process until a green, slimy build-up appears; and you have recreated for all to see the mucous that is within the body. If this could happen with “clean” water, one could only imagine what kind of odious mucous is formed from wastes from bodily, cellullar processes. And if this makes you mentally sick just from looking, it can make you even sicker physically because it has real, poisonous effects. For a complete explanation please refer to Tao of Forgotten Food Diet: Taoist Herbology, Water Dis-eases.] This mucous is still waste water, only it is in a more solid form. You may think you have added fat, but it is simply mucous which is stuck between the tissues. When this gelatinous substance hardens sufficiently, we call it cellulite. Animal fats such as butter and lard are particular components of cellulite formation. You will not get rid of cellulite by exercise or perspiration alone―only “fresh” water is eliminated by perspiration. The only way is by: 1. Drinking less―limiting your daily liquid intake to less than 6 cups―this is very important. 2. [A no-tool, no-cost yet effective cellulite removal technique is given under Chapter 3: The Taoist Seven Ways of Weight Loss, summarized below.] When we talk about a limit of six cups of liquid in twenty-four hours, we mean all liquids including soup, beverages, fruits and vegetables. You cannot eat two big bowls of soup and say that you did not drink any water. You can still retain water from that soup, so it must be acknowledged. For example, one patient of mine was overweight, yet he ate only one actual meal a day. The rest of the time he drank fruit juices. He had no idea how many gallons of liquids he actually poured into his body. Because he lived on almost nothing but fruit juice, he received almost no nutrients. Because of this lack of nutrition, he was very weak, constantly fainted, had palpitations of the heart, was short of breath, and had gout! (Chinese medicine indicates that gout is a symptom of kidney problems.) He also had high blood pressure. He had these problems for years, but he never made the connection between his symptoms and his “healthful” fruit juice diet. Often people will go to a restaurant, order a large salad and a drink or a glass of water, and congratulate themselves on their self-discipline. They think they are losing weight, but all they are doing is cheating themselves. Chances are their kidneys are not functioning 100%, so the more water they drink, the more water will be retained in their bodies. It can never be emphasized enough: the more liquids they take in―even in that salad―the more weight they gain. How well are your kidneys functioning? You can determine that by following these guidelines: 1. If your body has cellulite, there is no doubt that your kidneys are not functioning 100%, because you are retaining water. To check for cellulite, check the areas around the buttocks, thighs, belly, and upper arms for flabby or jelly-like tissues under the skin. 2. If you experience rapid weight changes―that is, gaining or losing as much as five pounds in a period of a day or two―those weight changes are definitely retained water, not fat. No fatty tissue can come and go that quickly. 3. If, when you press down with your finger on your arm or leg for a moment, then withdraw it, you see a white impression on your skin which remains briefly, you have water retention. If no water is being retained, there is either no white mark or it disappears immediately. The longer it stays, the greater the water retention problem. 4. If your physician diagnoses your weight problem as water retention, unfortunately the standard medical cure for water retention is diuretic pills. I call these “beat-your-tired-horse” pills. Why? Because your horse (your kidneys) is already “tired”―that is why you are retaining water―and taking these pills makes your “horse” run even harder. Overnight you may lose 10 pounds. But the problem is that when you take these pills, you have to drink more water to wash them down. In fact your doctor will tell you to drink great quantities of water in order to lubricate and “flush out” your kidneys. So you end up taking in (and eventually retaining) as much or more water than you eliminate. And during the process, you work your kidneys even harder, making them weaker and less capable of functioning properly. Ultimately, overworking your kidneys this way will cause kidney disease or even total failure. We live in a “drinking country.” Most people have a high daily intake of liquids, so it is not surprising that we also have a high incidence of kidney disease. But now that you know better, you can escape the norm and stay healthy by decreasing the amount of liquids you drink Ya the rest of the article is at www.thegreattao.com/html/taoofbalanceddiet.html	”

I totally disagree with you. You may be able to use sweating to get around it, but I have read another source that says the kidneys are far more capable of processing much more water. Perhaps the reason these Taoist kidneys in question can process only 6 glasses is improper health or that they are clogged, in which case more water should help with them.

http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=358328 To read my findings. Yes, I do go to more than this forum!