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Old September 20th, 2005, 07:06 AM
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but if it worked 100% opposite that means that u neither proved my idea wrong, u said eat more stronger metabolism, opposite of what i said eat less weaker metabolism?
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but if it worked 100% opposite that means that u neither proved my idea wrong, u said eat more stronger metabolism, opposite of what i said eat less weaker metabolism?

You misunderstand, what I said was that I skip breakfast and lunch, and instead of my metabolism becoming weaker and working less, that when I eat it works harder and stronger to break down the food, nutrients, vitamins, etc. and so I gain no weight, and when I do eat I usually have a larger dinner and again gain no weight from it, other than building muscle.
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oh ok, my bad, still u get the same intake as usually by eating more at lunch. this is if u try to stop eating because you want to lose weight. Minimize the entire daily intake dratiscally,ruins ur metabolism (i fink thats was another of my mistakes, might of been read as, minimize the entire daily intake, drastically ruins ur metabolism) Thats were i got confused
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oh ok, my bad, still u get the same intake as usually by eating more at lunch. this is if u try to stop eating because you want to lose weight. Minimize the entire daily intake dratiscally,ruins ur metabolism (i fink thats was another of my mistakes, might of been read as, minimize the entire daily intake, drastically ruins ur metabolism) Thats were i got confused

This diet is not only for weight loss young n', Many people do it on a regular basis. it gives me a higher level of energy.
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This diet is not only for weight loss young n', Many people do it on a regular basis. it gives me a higher level of energy.


Yup, works different for different people. Me not eating = me getting all grouchy.
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This diet is not only for weight loss young n', Many people do it on a regular basis. it gives me a higher level of energy.

Darn right, if you are putting in wiring or setting up whatever for electrical, or setting up trusses or building framework or whatever on a house or building, do you want to eat a large meal and thus move slower and more sluggishly, or do you want to eat nothing/lightly and thus work faster and be aware of what it is you're doing?
I'm going for option 2!
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Maybe, but it works for me.... I can't eat breakfast (don't know why, just can't even think about food in the morning) and I don't eat lunch because it slows me down in the afternoon. The multivitamins suffice for the skipped meals, for me. Everybody's different. My suggestion is for temporary, untill you reach desired weight. If you are trying to build muscle (mass) then this is not the right diet...

If you ask me, that's a pretty stupid way to lose weight, as it effects your metabloism. If you lose weight by not eating enough, your body will adjust as if you were starving, and you won't be able to eat a normal ammount of food. Multivitamins aren't nearly as good for you as getting your vitamins through your food, your body can't absorb them as well. And if you don't eat enough protein you will lose muscle mass and get weaker.
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Really ? because.......
Skipping Meals Might Offer Health Gains

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People assume that the ideal meal schedule spreads calorie intake over the course of the day: Never skip breakfast, keep your blood sugar on an even keel, and all that. But Mark Mattson, a neuroscientist at the National Institute on Aging in Baltimore, suspects that conventional wisdom may be due for an overhaul.

While many doctors encourage people to eat three square meals a day, there aren't data to indicate that it's important, he says. In fact, says Mattson, "it may be healthy to have reduced meal frequency." In other words, skipping some meals—or occasionally fasting for the day—might be beneficial, even if overall calorie consumption remains unchanged http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20030607/food.asp

Please read ChuanFaChick

Just because somebody on the interenet says it's a good idea, doesn't mean it's healthy. I'm guessing that this guy's research has been taken completly out of context, or he's a moron.
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Originally Posted By: openmind
Same here, and personal expirence trumps what any book might suggest, IMSFKHO.

I don't thing you realize how you not eating until super (?) is starving your brain...
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I dont know too much about weight loss and the like, so bare with me. When Im trying to loose weight after x-mas holidays (I tend to eat too much shortbread) I do all the forms (kata?) that I've been taught. Not just once, but over and over again at varying speeds. In essance, its cardio... but it seems to have better effects, not to mention keeping my forms sharp. Oh, and dont take breaks between your forms, if you start to loose wind, just do the next one slow to catch your breath.
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Originally Posted By: Mei Hua
You misunderstand, what I said was that I skip breakfast and lunch, and instead of my metabolism becoming weaker and working less, that when I eat it works harder and stronger to break down the food, nutrients, vitamins, etc. and so I gain no weight, and when I do eat I usually have a larger dinner and again gain no weight from it, other than building muscle.

How long have you been doing this for? I'm guessing you won't live to be very old if you keep it up. If you starve your body for most of the day, it can't repair its self normally, amongst other things. You'd probably also suffer from a weakened immune system, and lower test scores.
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Originally Posted By: openmind
This diet is not only for weight loss young n', Many people do it on a regular basis. it gives me a higher level of energy.

That's total Bull. Where does your energy come from? Obviously not food, since you starve yourself for most of the day. Have you developed clorophyll so you can absorb your energy from the sun? Because that would be more likly than you getting more energy from not eating.
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Originally Posted By: Mei Hua
Darn right, if you are putting in wiring or setting up whatever for electrical, or setting up trusses or building framework or whatever on a house or building, do you want to eat a large meal and thus move slower and more sluggishly, or do you want to eat nothing/lightly and thus work faster and be aware of what it is you're doing?
I'm going for option 2!

That's why many nutritionists say eating smaller meals more frequently is healthier. I don't think that any reputable nutritionist would tell you skipping breakfast and lunch is a good idea.
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Originally Posted By: ChuanFaChick
I don't thing you realize how you not eating until super (?) is starving your brain...

Is that so? I've seen just the opposite, and had no ill effects from it.
I suppose that might be so if you sit on your a$$ all day at work and do nothing productive or which requires strong thinking, anylitcal skills, and use of the body, then that most likely is the case, I know at least 75 people that I work, or have worked, with that do the same and no bad effects as of yet, and many have done so for many, many years.
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Originally Posted By: Lotus_41
I dont know too much about weight loss and the like, so bare with me. When Im trying to loose weight after x-mas holidays (I tend to eat too much shortbread) I do all the forms (kata?) that I've been taught. Not just once, but over and over again at varying speeds. In essance, its cardio... but it seems to have better effects, not to mention keeping my forms sharp. Oh, and dont take breaks between your forms, if you start to loose wind, just do the next one slow to catch your breath.

It probably works better because you're not just exersizing your heart and lungs, but various other muscles due to the stances/strikes. I've been meaning to get some wrist/ankle weights to use when practicing forms.
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