Reducing Bodyfat

Sweet, we've all said what works for ourselves....... let's not start doing any insults here.

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“	Originally Posted By: ChuanFaChick If you ask me, that's a pretty stupid way to lose weight, as it effects your metabloism. If you lose weight by not eating enough, your body will adjust as if you were starving, and you won't be able to eat a normal ammount of food. Multivitamins aren't nearly as good for you as getting your vitamins through your food, your body can't absorb them as well. And if you don't eat enough protein you will lose muscle mass and get weaker.	”

ok, whatever you think CFC ........I don't use it for weight loss. do you base your opinions on your opinion ? .......seriously though CFC, have you ever tried this diet ? or are your claims on it's effects hollow and unresearched ? My claims come from personal expirence, and I have not expirenced any of these ill effects of which you speak...

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I haven't read all the posts but I think CFC is on the right track with this one.
I've been looseing weight over the past month and a half or so. I've lost somewhere in the 6 to 8 pound range. I can't really remember where I started. I have been eating a little bit every 2 to 3 hours and just a few sittups extra. Its worked well for me. I can say that when I miss meals I get run down. I'm not saying missing meals wil make you die young but its definetly not good for you.

“	Originally Posted By: openmind ok, whatever you think CFC ........I don't use it for weight loss.	”

The thread is about losing body fat, this "diet" was originally brought up as a way to lose weight.

“	.......seriously though CFC, have you ever tried this diet ? or are your claims on it's effects hollow and unresearched ? My claims come from personal expirence, and I have not expirenced any of these ill effects of which you speak...	”

Actually, I have tried this diet, twice. Once was as a result of despratly wanting to lose weight, the other was as a result of not actually having enough food avalible to eat regularly. Both times I noticed I got sick more often, and it took me longer to recover from illness/injury, and I lost quite a bit of muscle mass as well. Once I started eating properly again, my energy levels increased, as did my marks in school.

Your opinion is based upon your personal experiance, which is probably deluded by the fact that you've become used to being half starved. Mine is based upon personal experiance of both during and after trying these methouds, and scientific fact.

BTW, people will take you more seriously if you don't through random smilies in where they don't fit.

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“	Originally Posted By: ChuanFaChick Your opinion is based upon your personal experiance, which is probably deluded by the fact that you've become used to being half starved. Mine is based upon personal experiance of both during and after trying these methouds, and scientific fact. BTW, people will take you more seriously if you don't through random smilies in where they don't fit.	”

Actually, if you had bothered to read, I and many others have done the exact same diet with 100% no ill effect, and just had a physical last month and in 100% perfect health, as long as you still get proper nutrition when you do eat, it does no harm.


By the way, earlier you said somethiong about that diet starving the brain of oxygen, just to let you know, it's throw, not through smilies, you might want to get your current diet evaluated for that brain thing, that's the second time you've made a bad mistake on this thread.

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“	Originally Posted By: ChuanFaChick The thread is about losing body fat, this "diet" was originally brought up as a way to lose weight.	”

I have a feeling all you really want to do is argue...NOTICE THE LETTER I, AS IN ME PERSONALLY.

“	Actually, I have tried this diet, twice. Once was as a result of despratly wanting to lose weight, the other was as a result of not actually having enough food avalible to eat regularly. Both times I noticed I got sick more often, and it took me longer to recover from illness/injury, and I lost quite a bit of muscle mass as well. Once I started eating properly again, my energy levels increased, as did my marks in school.	”

All i have to say is.......you were probably doing it wrong.

“	Your opinion is based upon your personal experiance, which is probably deluded by the fact that you've become used to being half starved. Mine is based upon personal experiance of both during and after trying these methouds, and scientific fact.	”

Havent seen 1 fact as of yet CFC. Like I said, you were doing the diet wrong, I'm sure not starved. I think my doc would let me know if I was as well.

“	BTW, people will take you more seriously if you don't through random smilies in where they don't fit.	”

It's throw, not through. OK, good advice

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“	Originally Posted By: Mei Hua By the way, earlier you said somethiong about that diet starving the brain of oxygen, just to let you know, it's throw, not through smilies, you might want to get your current diet evaluated for that brain thing, that's the second time you've made a bad mistake on this thread.	”

I never said oxygen. You're brain needs nutrition just like the rest of your body. Fatty acids especially. I may be bad at grammer, but at least I know you get oxygen from air and not food.

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“	Originally Posted By: openmind I have a feeling all you really want to do is argue...NOTICE THE LETTER I, AS IN ME PERSONALLY.	”

I was just trying to explain one of my eariler comments that you had replied to. Sorry if I seem like I'm trying to initiate arguments, but I get a little annoyed when someone tells somebody else to practically starve themselves to lose weight.

“	All i have to say is.......you were probably doing it wrong.	”

...as far as I can tell, there is no right way to do it.

“	Havent seen 1 fact as of yet CFC. Like I said, you were doing the diet wrong, I'm sure not starved. I think my doc would let me know if I was as well.	”

Does your doctor know about your eating habbits? Somehow, I think not.

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“	Originally Posted By: ChuanFaChick I don't thing you realize how you not eating until super (?) is starving your brain...	”

You're right, you didn't say anything about oxygen, I'm sorry.
But still, a lack of proper nutrition effects the brain's ability to function and work effectively, it's think not thing.

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“	Originally Posted By: ChuanFaChick I was just trying to explain one of my eariler comments that you had replied to. Sorry if I seem like I'm trying to initiate arguments, but I get a little annoyed when someone tells somebody else to practically starve themselves to lose weight.	”

What is really annoying to me is your assumption on this diet focusing on starvation. maybe you have an infatuation, I don't know. Let me make it clear, I AM NO WHERE NEAR BEING STARVED. I eat a BIG meal at about 5:00 pm every evening. I make up for my calorie loss during the day in my 1 meal alone. I don't even urge for food at all during the day. I drink allot of fluids (and I mean allot). I'm comparable to a fish. That is why I say "I do not use this diet for weight loss". If one wanted to lose weight they would trade in the homemade hamburgers for a large salad, Cut back on the oreos' and vitamin D milk....things of that nature. Get what I'm saying ? I use this diet to maintain my current weight.

“	...as far as I can tell, there is no right way to do it.	”

I belive you were doing it wrong...

“	Does your doctor know about your eating habbits? Somehow, I think not.	”

Yours doesnt ?

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"-when you yourself know that a thing is good, that it is not blamable, that it is praised by the wise and when practiced and observed that it leads to happiness, then follow that thing.”

it's a different kind of diet, we get it

I think the thing CFC is tying to point out that the body goes into a "starvation mode" if it doesn't get enough food to burn after a day or 3...
that's why crash diets are very bad for you in the end...

your body adjusts to the fact that it doesn't get enough calories and once you start to eat "normal" again it will try to store *all* food into fat, just in case a time like that will happen again

also when you don't eat enough your body will burn your muscles

so in the end, these crash diets will make your lean body mass go down dramastically, less muscles, more fat...
not good at all...

I must say that I've never tried this warrior diet and honestly I do not understand how it work either...

if it works for you...
great!!!

but there are many, many different views on how to lose fat etc. etc....

do some research on the net ( ) and your head will spin with info...

Chief108

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Did I miss something ? that was the disagreement to begin with.......warrior diet has absolutely nothing to do with crash dieting whatsoever. warrior diet = No starvation at all. warrior diet = lose weight or sustain weight. CFC was pointing out something that has nothing to do with warrior diet. Yes crash dieting is BAD. Jeeze, I must've missed something...

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LOL...

the "power of words"...

oh well..

hope I didn't make things worse...

Chief108

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all hail Martyr Fakka

My question is, why in first instance do you want to "lose body fat" ? Because an artificial "body mass index" from underweighted bulimia posterwomen tells you to ? 200lb at 6'3" doesn't sound like lots of excess weight. A colleague of me is same height and 250, THAT is fat (because it ain't muscles). 200-220 for him would be just fine. First start to work out, toning your body. Whatever "index" you have, when you feel FIT, trained, and have some okay muscle amount, the result is okay, and you shouldn't have excess fat hanging around. Working out should turn the fat into muscle at least enough to mask the remaining fat. Some fat is NATURAL.

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You know what, screw the diets..... eat and live. Don't let yourslef "go", try to maintain a healthy lifestyle, and just be happy.

Screw it, I'm going to eat some LauLau and Kalua Pig with Lomi Salmon. Some Taco Poke... oh yeah, just grind!!!

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