Vegeterianism

well I would like to gain some muscles.And some of the posts have conviced me that eating meat is not that bad.So now i am thinking to start,but everything look so grose to me

“	well I would like to gain some muscles.	”

non veg doesn't necessarily means you'll gain msucles mass.
You need to look at your diet...

You need to understand how your body works. You need to learn a lot of things regarding Diet for muscle mass n other stuff...
You might need to read one or more of these books
http://www.scrawnytobrawny.com/book.html
http://burnthefat.com (tho its about burning fat but it contains awesome tips which can be followed by anyone even looking to gain some muscles mass).

you can go to www.t-nation.com and learn a lot about packing muscles.
also try http://www.bodybuildingsecrets.com it's a blog by Tom Venuto(author of "Burn the fat, feed the muscles")

the problem with Martial artists trianing is that if you are practicing on daily basis.. it'll put your body into 24 hr muscle burning catabolic state. only thing that can counter that is understanding Diet and nutrition.

-TkdWarrior-

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I think vegetarian/veganism is just a personal preferance, I know many great martial artists that eat meat and some that don't-but I don't see a huge difference between the two. But if you eat lots of tofu you'll deffinetly gain some muscle mass.

“	Originally Posted By: Petar I think that all who understand the philosophy of kung fu,should not eat no meat	”

Gentlemen, are you sure you're not misunderstanding his philosophical consumption interpretation?

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“	Originally Posted By: Tyciol Gentlemen, are you sure you're not misunderstanding his philosophical consumption interpretation?	”

Well, occording to two of his earlier posts, he's four years old. I'm not sure he understands what philosophy means...

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LOL ... FUNNY, I would like to know what the heck "understanding the philosophy of kung fu" has to do with being a vegetarian.

And what is "The Philosophy of Kung fu" in your eyes. You can still be in touch and at "one" with mind, body and soul ... ever hear of "soul food".

MMMMMMMMM ... meat.

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Everything in moderation, for me ... meat, vegetables, grains, fruits.

I can only go without meat for a few days at a time, before I start feeling weak and/or just out of sorts. Probably because I don't follow a vegetarian diet which would have combinations of foods to prevent getting weak.

Not being able to afford meat -- of any quality -- is almost unheard of in the U.S., but like tkdwarrior says it's common in India. And, when I traveled in Mexico years ago, the same was true. Staying with some friends, they fixed "American-style hamburgers" for dinner one night and I knew it was a sacrifice for them. Also, they weren't sure how to cook the burgers because who in their right minds would cook a big hunk of ground meat for just one person? So they came out kinda burnt.

Oh and "soul food" ... darn skippy. Last year I learned how to eat (but not cook) pig's feet and hog mauls. You gotta put your soul into that kind of cooking to get it to come out right!

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I was Vegi for a while and then back on the meat and I feel another Vegi time coming on ... I like to do what is natural or feels right inside.

I think the idea that eating animals is morally wrong is correct in many cases. We shovel meat into our mouths without taking into consideration the ultimate sacrifice the animal has given us.

In an ideal world I would kill and eat my own meat and revere the animals that supply me with my food, much like many ancient cultures, Native Americans etc.

Unfortunately in modern society this isn’t such a viable option for me ... the best I can do is make sure that whenever I eat meat I respect and consider what the animal has given me and try to eat meat from well cared for animals.

Many believe that well loved and cared for animals, taste better and have greater energetic benefits. UK people … watch the ‘river cottage’ series … they are very eye opening about eating meat and how someone that grows their own veg and rears their own livestock feels about killing their ‘pets’.

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True -- sometimes listening to your body & what it wants/needs is healthiest. I say "sometimes" because lately my body's been telling me that I must fill up on ice cream popsicles or die. (But I suspect it's just a craving for higher-fat foods as the weather turns cold.)

My stepfather made it a point to take us all out hunting & fishing, when I was a kid. We also kept a bit of livestock -- chickens & rabbits mostly -- and a garden. Not because my parents had to, but to teach us where our food came from and to teach respect for all living things. Anything we killed we had to dress & eat -- anything. Knowing that, we didn't go around shooting animals for sport, or catching more fish than we could eat.

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thats sounds great SammyGirl, Sound like your parents knew what they were doing!!

yeh the listening to your body and listening to your cravings is a big problem. 'does my body really need all that beer and pizza??'

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let me start off by saying that im indesiscive on weather or not being a vegitarian is immoral, i am just stating a few opinions i have on each side of the argument.
eating meat is not wrong. your body needs protein, yes there are things besides meat that give you protien but there are other nutriants and vitamains that meat gives you that vegtiables and never breathing species dont contain. there really is no point to saying no to eating meat except for how the animal is killed (which i admit a slaughter house is not an ideal example of an honerable death for a cow...or any animal being slaughtered in the masses) There is also the many harms that come from meat but no more than other foods you buy in a supermarket. unless you shop at an organic market or somthing similar to that.
But looking at vegitarians i have nothing but respect. Personally i consume large amounts of meat on a daily basis. i love steak and bacon and chicken and fish. I LOVE IT! lol. but i view vegitarianism as a discipline. To be able to get along through life with better than average health and take away a basic desire is, in my opinion somthing to be respected. people that get angry at vegitarians for saying no to meat are just saying somthing to hear themselves speak. why should it bother them if someone says no to meat...more for them lol. it is very comparable to gas, the world relies blindly on cars and other gas using modes of transportation. if someone says "i dont need a car to get to where i need to go" is the angry man sitting in his car going to mock him? i wouldnt assume he would not. so why should a meat eater mock someone for choosing not to eat meat.
so basically i believe its your life, you can do what you want with it, eat meat dont eat meat it is up to you entirely.

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its hard beign a strict vegetarian.. theirs meat in everything.. I started yesterday. going to see how long i can go without meat.
everyone has their own ideas. just go with the flow

Jy

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In response to spud I don't think any meat eater has a problem with vegetarians. There are a lot of people(myself included) who have a problem with vegies who say no one should eat meat. One of my least favorite things are people preaching about how meat=murder and that meat eaters are immoral.

I do hunt(bow mostly). I haven't gotten anything this year but I'm hopeing I will. I also buy all my meat and dairy from the farmers market where they are nice to thier animals up untill the end.

I don't think eating meat is immoral. Glutony and waist is immoral. Eating without thinking or apprecieating where the food comes from is immoral.

And I was a vegetarian for a month. After that time I didn't really miss meat but I didn't really see a point to keeping it up either. I don't eat a whole lot of meat now anyway.

Yep, I don't have a problem with vegetarianism (or any diet-"ism") but if folks get preachy that's a turn-off.

BTW there's a vegetarian festival here tomorrow, free food samples and info on going veggie, etc. In Boston it's kinda like preaching to the choir, but they do get a good turnout.

Across the river in Cambridge there's a store with a big sign that says "Chicken Fresh Killed." Not quite sure whether they do that right when you order it, or if it's a macabre marketing slogan.

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