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August 9th, 2006, 10:46 PM
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Rep Power: 4 | | | cheese experts needed The faculty professors just slapped us with another assignment. Part of it is modifying a recipe to make it healthier. This is a recipe I chose to tackle:
SAUSAGE AND CHEESE LASAGNE
Ingredients
sauce
2 tbsp butter
500g beef sausages
1 medium onion, chopped
3 large garlic cloves, chopped
2 teaspoons dried oregano
330g canned tomato in juice
filling
1.5 cups fresh basil leaves
2 cups ricotta cheese
1.5 cups grated tasty cheese
3/4 cup grated parmesan
1 large egg
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/4 teaspoon ground black pepper
assembly
4 fresh lasagne sheets
3 cups grated tasty cheese
1 cup grated parmesan
Ok, for my healtheir version I decided to replace the butter with olive oil spread and the tasty cheese with low fat cheddar. But my problem now lies with the ricotta and parmesan. Is there any way I can substitute these without compromising the overall flavor, texture and quality of the dish?
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August 9th, 2006, 11:22 PM
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August 10th, 2006, 01:16 AM
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I was actually thinking of another kind of cheese or dairy product. How would natto affect palatability and overall lasagne-ness?? | 
August 10th, 2006, 01:56 AM
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August 10th, 2006, 02:54 AM
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Posted By: Unkotare 
Instead of ricotta, use natto. | ” | | | “ | Originally
Posted By: Diamond Finger 
In a lasagne!?
I was actually thinking of another kind of cheese or dairy product. How would natto affect palatability and overall lasagne-ness?? | ” | |
it would make it very healthy and completely disgusting
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August 10th, 2006, 04:31 AM
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Posted By: wingchun warrior 
how about cottage cheese | ” | |
YACK! I guess I am not a healthy eater... :P
Cottage chease's shape is like goat poo. Though tasteless fortunatelly. Depending on where you live you can subtitute parmezana with another spicy and salty cheese, like Kefalotiri... I also use some smoked cheese some times. Just keep in mind. Salty and spicy.  | 
August 10th, 2006, 10:51 AM
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Rep Power: 153 | | | You could replace the beef with eggplant or portobello mushroom. Or if you still have to use meat, go with chicken sausage.
There is a fat-free ricotta on the U.S. market, IMO it has the consistency of wax compared to real ricotta ... but then I'm a snob because the deli down the street makes it fresh.
Eliminate the egg to reduce cholesterol but you'll need another binder; egg whites alone can kind of work.
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August 10th, 2006, 12:36 PM
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Rep Power: 149 | | | i would swap the parmesan with picarino romano
same thing but sheep instaed of cow
i assume that the riccota is for the white sauce ?
if so use semi skimmed milk or set yogurt
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August 10th, 2006, 04:06 PM
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Use 2 eggs and remove the yolks.
Leave the cheese alone. It won't be lasagne if you go messing with the cheese!!!!!!
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August 10th, 2006, 04:21 PM
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Posted By: Lugaldamhara 
Leave the cheese alone. It won't be lasagne if you go messing with the cheese!!!!!! | ” | |
Dam straight. 
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August 16th, 2006, 06:09 AM
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Posted By: Diamond Finger 
The faculty professors just slapped us with another assignment. Part of it is modifying a recipe to make it healthier. This is a recipe I chose to tackle:
SAUSAGE AND CHEESE LASAGNE
Ingredients
sauce
2 tbsp butter ***replace with buttermilk ICBINB
500g beef sausages **precook them and drain them/press the warm fat out
1 medium onion, chopped
3 large garlic cloves, chopped ** don't mix this with olive oil or you'll make plak
2 teaspoons dried oregano
330g canned tomato in juice
filling
1.5 cups fresh basil leaves
2 cups ricotta cheese
1.5 cups grated tasty cheese **if you use a peppered cheese fats emulsify
3/4 cup grated parmesan **romano has similar flavour but requires much less
1 large egg **two eggs, yolkes removed
1/2 teaspoon salt
1/4 teaspoon ground black pepper
assembly
4 fresh lasagne sheets
3 cups grated tasty cheese
1 cup grated parmesan
Ok, for my healtheir version I decided to replace the butter with olive oil spread and the tasty cheese with low fat cheddar. But my problem now lies with the ricotta and parmesan. Is there any way I can substitute these without compromising the overall flavor, texture and quality of the dish?
Thx! | ” | |
low fat cheese is really difficult to make as tasty as if it had all the fat it could muster. however, mixing cheeses and using a low fat one is practically useless, too. just tell the faculty to walk it off. fat alone isn't bad. infact too much fat can lead to a catabolic metabolism. which may actually be good for most sedentary faculty: it'll burn out just about everything, including their tenure!
Last edited by RanXing; August 16th, 2006 at 06:24 AM.
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August 16th, 2006, 11:42 PM
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Rep Power: 4 | | | I'm not making it for the faculty, the target is non-specific. However, I still have to make it in line with National Heart Foundation guidelines.
Also, what do you mean by 'plak'? If the olive oil is in margarine spread form, is it ok? What is ICBINB? And exactly how muich romano cheese would I need? | 
August 17th, 2006, 04:02 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | plak=plaque, the nasty stuff that actually clogs up in your arteries and veins and feels like glass dust shredding it's way through your cardiovascular system when you take crestor. you know, plak. when olive oil and garlic oil combine they make a sticky plaque forming substance like there is no other thing to do...besides, oils/fats and carbs are a really bad idea to combine in the GI tract within a 24hr period.
the abbreviation is a mistake: I can't believe it's not butter. it's a margarine that has a stronger butter flavour because it has buttermilk in it. | 
August 17th, 2006, 04:08 AM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | romano: probably 1/4 to 1/5 the normal volume for a similar flavour depending on how strong the other stuff's flavour is which you include in your recipe. romano is a very strong flavour. i bought a quarter pound (125g) chunk for home use about a year ago and threw most of it away a week ago. so if you're replacing parmesan topping a few teaspoons per tray should be plenty. just make sure your spread it evenly. i think it also comes in shaker bottles like parmesan.
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August 17th, 2006, 05:21 AM
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Rep Power: 149 | | | also i think cam's sugestion of replacing the beef and removeing the yokes is a good one
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