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“	Originally Posted By: WraithAlcon Yeah, but there really IS NOT medical proof about the 8 glasses of water, while there IS medical proof about Qigong. So...boooooyah! =p	”

Actaully, an now ex Dr. of mine proved the medical benefits of drinking 8 glasses to me, had a paper on it he let me read that stated the medical facts for how it can be very beneficial.

So BOO YAH!!!!

I'll need some sources on that one MH. Because many papers have been published about the benefits of 8 glasses of water, however they all link back to that one unsubstantiated document.

And if it turns out to be true, I would love to bring proof to my old University professor, as he would not doubt be very interested in it.

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Wraith's right.
Tai Chi, qigong, and meditation all have proven medical benefits.

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None of those sites are credible MH. And none of those articles list the sources for their information. If I were to turn out a research paper back at college with those sources, I would have gotten a big fat F.

And of course the other big red flag is that all those cites are .com sites, which basically means anyone could have posted it. In the realm of legit research on the internet, .org and .gov cites are slightly more reliable.

Also a clarification. I never said drinking water was not good for you (which is the topic of most those articles). However, I did say that the myth of drinking 8 glasses a day is totally fabricated but has become a health "fact" due to constant reciting over the years.

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Actually, that first was was an excerpt from a book by a Med. Dr. having done research and that showed the benefits of 8 glasses and why water was good.

The 2nd was a paper done by a Medical student doing research on that topic, the others get there information from places like the ADA and others.

While the source of 8 glasses is in question, it does provide beneficial traits for doing so.

The problem is taking any medication and then drinking 8 glasses of water, which would flush most of it out of your system, and do nothing good at the same time.

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That applies to anything with liquid, or immersing yourself into water at the same time.

“	Originally Posted By: Mei Hua Actually, that first was was an excerpt from a book by a Med. Dr. having done research and that showed the benefits of 8 glasses and why water was good. The 2nd was a paper done by a Medical student doing research on that topic, the others get there information from places like the ADA and others. While the source of 8 glasses is in question, it does provide beneficial traits for doing so.	”

So the question would be...on these sites, is anyone governing the information? Is anyone checking the authenticity? Probably not...and that is the first problem. The second is that the 8 glasses myth is so pervasive it has become a "fact" with no actual evidence. At best, I see inferences and anecdotal information in those articles. I don't see anything that indicates 8 glasses is some magic number, or that 2 glasses would provide the same benefit.

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“	Originally Posted By: WraithAlcon So the question would be...on these sites, is anyone governing the information? Is anyone checking the authenticity? Probably not...and that is the first problem. The second is that the 8 glasses myth is so pervasive it has become a "fact" with no actual evidence. At best, I see inferences and anecdotal information in those articles. I don't see anything that indicates 8 glasses is some magic number, or that 2 glasses would provide the same benefit.	”

Well, on the first one as it is a direct quote from some part of the book by the Dr, of which he then posts a link to where the book may be bought and verified for fact, I think that would count.
The 2nd I would say is checked as well being a Medical blog site run by Dr's and Residents/Interns so if something were to come up as not being fact it would be removed and before being posted, would most likely be fact checked.

More than that, can't really help, no longer in the States and so the Dr I spoke about isn't near by for me to get a copy of his research report, I can perhaps see if I can get a copy and repost it, but then again that brings up issues.

So, regardless of the 8 glasses, it does have benefits for drinking water and the general medical consensus across the board is so many ounces per pound of body weight which essentially comes to 8 8oz glasses a day or as close as can be achieved.

“	The British Medical Journal published the following on Dec 24th. "The advice to drink at least eight glasses of water a day can be found throughout the popular press.w1-w4 One origin may be a 1945 recommendation that stated: A suitable allowance of water for adults is 2.5 litres daily in most instances. An ordinary standard for diverse persons is 1 millilitre for each calorie of food. Most of this quantity is contained in prepared foods.w5 If the last, crucial sentence is ignored, the statement could be interpreted as instruction to drink eight glasses of water a day.w6 Another endorsement may have come from a prominent nutritionist, Frederick Stare, who once recommended, without references, the consumption "around 6 to 8 glasses per 24 hours," which could be "in the form of coffee, tea, milk, soft drinks, beer, etc."w7 The complete lack of evidence supporting the recommendation to drink six to eight glasses of water a day is exhaustively catalogued in an invited review by Heinz Valtin in the American Journal of Physiology.w8 Furthermore, existing studies suggest that adequate fluid intake is usually met through typical daily consumption of juice, milk, and even caffeinated drinks.w9 In contrast, drinking excess amounts of water can be dangerous, resulting in water intoxication, hyponatraemia, and even death."	”

8 glass of water "myth" debunked

Urban Legends Reference Pages: Eight Glasses of Water a Day

Recommended Water Intake A Myth


The list goes on... ^_^

And yes, these are articles from .com sources. The first 2 are referenced though.

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I have to say, I'm with Wraith on this.

If you're thirsty, drink. If you're not then don't worry too much about it.

The idea that there would be some universal requirement seems a bit odd given individual metabolisms vary so much.

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The only universal requirement is a certain ounce % based off your body weight, so if you weigh less, drink less, if you weigh more, drink lots more.

The military uses the ounce % based off body weight. Then they factor in air temperature, humidity, and the increased amount of exercise soldiers are getting, and recommend how much water commanders MUST give their soldiers daily. This helps them not to die.

Drink water = don't die. I think there's a good deal of scientific evidence to back that one up.

8 glasses is a "golden mean," not an ultimate mandate. It's an excellent guideline to follow if you are physically active. I've had great results following it -- my recovery time from exercise is faster, my muscles don't stay sore as long, I have better stamina during workouts and greater flexibility. So what if it's a myth, it's worked a lot better for me than "detox diets" or protein shakes. Cheap as hell, too.

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True, but those are different conditions, SG.

You're talking about the military, with heavy packs, rough head/humidity, etc.

aaradia's talking colds and immune system issues. Big difference.

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