Warrior Diet

I was reading the published results on a new study on salt consumption.......thing is, the study didn't really study salt consumption. It had people who ate a diet high in processed foods, (normal Western diet, etc) and then it had another group eat more of their calories in fresh fruits and vegetables..................yes, that's right that's how they had the people lower their sodium intake, by eating more fruits and veggies at home cooked meals. now, call me silly, but maybe the improvement in blood pressure recorded had more to do with fresh fruit and veggies than a change in sodium??? That's the problem with so many studies. When you look at the methodology, they don't really control for specific foods or substances, that just have one group of people eat healthy stuff, and one group of people eat a "normal" diet. And then they just point out one good thing they like or one bad thing they avoided as the culprit. Atkins, South Beach, Zone, etc, actually have things in common with vegetarians! GASP! Yep, you see on those diets, just like a health conscious vegans, you will actually eat more fruits and veggies than a typical diet. And all those people will avoid trans fats, sugar, refined flour and in general avoid refined foods, fast foods and junk foods. You can believe you need to avoid them because of fat content, or you can think of it as refined carbs, but the fact still remains that in both cases you are avoided junk food and processed food. Even if you don't like Atkins diet (and the fact is many people don't like the diet, not based on FACTS, but they simply don't like the AESTHETICS of the diet) you have to give Atkins props for showing the importance of tryglicerides in blood levels and how that's just as important an indicator for heart disease as cholesterol and how Tryglicerides relate to trans fats (partrially hydrogenated oils).
I even looked around at some Alkaline diet programs today, same thing, eat more veggies and fruits, eat less processed foods. Anybody see a common sense pattern? And BTW, low fat diets don't work, they don't prevent heart disease, just look at the data!

Anyway, my point? originally I had one, but obviously it escaped and went running over the horizon.....

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“	And BTW, low fat diets don't work, they don't prevent heart disease, just look at the data!	”

I second that too....

I even looked around at some Alkaline diet programs today, same thing, eat more veggies and fruits, eat less processed foods.
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ya just alkaline theory says U need to balance the acidic nature in ur body... how? drink more water, or organic fruits or buy their Green Drinks
-TkdWarrior-

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I've read a lot on atkins... I think the problem is not with Atkins/southbeach or abs diet, it's the way ur lifestyle is, I know I m getting PC in this, but that's the truth...
it doesnt matter which diet u talk about, u r talking about Instant gratification on loosing weight.

I rarely try diets even tho when I was 40 pounds heavier(I treid warrior diet for a week when I already lost all my excess weight, so can't really comment on that factor on this diet) I lost all my fat n weigth with proper exercise routine and meal plan...

-TkdWarrior-

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TKD, I'll think you'll find that they Atkins, SouthBeach, etc, approach aren't like "oh just eat apple vinegar for two weeks and you'll lose 20 pounds so you look hot in a bikini" approaches. They ARE talking about making a fundamental change in your lifestyle in how you eat, exercise, etc.

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Even so, it's the wrong one. We NEED carbs, and Atkins at first said to do away with them entirely, now they're becoming less extreme so people will take them more seriously, but it still doesn't omit the fact that their philosophy sucks.

Plus it's named after some guy, and I don't like the name Atkins.

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Tyciol (too new for a signature)

OK Tyciol, I'll create a new diet for you ... how about the Claudia Schiffer Diet? (or, name hot supermodel of your choice)

Atkins & SBD still recommend doing away with carbs (almost) entirely, just like they always have. The initial 2-week period features extremely low levels of carbs (around 60/day on SBD, which is less than half the RDA). After that, dieters have the option of continuing this extremely low carb level (not recommended by either plan if you exercise regularly), or stepping up to another "low-carb" level (which is actually within RDA guidelines, just at the bottom range). They have not backed off of this position.

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“	Even so, it's the wrong one. We NEED carbs, and Atkins at first said to do away with them entirely, now they're becoming less extreme so people will take them more seriously, but it still doesn't omit the fact that their philosophy sucks.	”

Ok, this shows you indeed have not read any of his books.

They aren't becoming less extreme. Atkins has ALWAYS stated that people who were raised on a diet of fruits, veggies, meats, and WHOLE GRAINS with minimal amounts of sugar are very unlikely to get heart disease.

What Atkins does say is that if you have been eating a long term diet full of refined carbs and sugars for years and years, that taking some time radically reduce your body's carb intake could help out your metabolic system and improve your blood profile, which it DOES. (and of course, lose weight, with less body weight lost in muscle and not fatt tissues, whic it DOES).


Atkins says you can live without carbs because YOU CAN. Just ask any INUIT or MASAI that lives there natural lifestyle. The FDA only started putting daily percentages of carbs on nutritional labels AFTER Atkins became popular. Some people also think that glucos is the ONLY fuel the brain can use and if you go lo, lo carb, you will go crazy as your brain cells starve.........Inuits seem pretty wise folks to me, because you see, you brain can metabolize KETONES just as well.

That being said, Atkins NEVER said that you should eat a ZERO CARB diet. Atkins NEVER said that you should avoid vegetables, in fact he encouraged his supporters to eat more veggies. I definately found myself eating more, not less veggies after reading a couple of Atkins books.

You sir, are uninformed.

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Look, I don't mind if you don't agree with the Atkins diet, wether it's for purely aesthetic reasons, or actual logical reasons.

But there is this kneejerk, cliche' crowd that says Atkins says "only eat meat" and that folks, is a big fat LIE.

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I never said he said 'only eat meat', and I am not totally uninformed in this. If you ask any athletes or bodybuilders, carbs are important, and judging by their proof over a bunch of fat people... well I don't think it's much of a comparison.

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Tyciol (too new for a signature)

Huh?

Yup, there are NO bodybuilders or athletes who would endorse a lo carb diet.

A bunch of fat people? What's that supposed to mean?

http://atkins.com/advice/success-stories.html/pg=1

So basically you are just mad that you have no argument, so you are just calling people names?

Again if you don't like the Atkins diet, FINE, no reason to be slanderous about it.

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Every diet, especially one as wide-spread as this, and especially ones with lots of money, have all sorts of success stories. Besides, some of the people in that are still fat.

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Tyciol (too new for a signature)

So?

Everything you said applies to every diet/lifestyle change ever thought up INCLUDING the whole FDA low fat thing, which, btw has a miserable success rate for preventing heart disease.

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what does it mean by eating at night? like 5 pm? 6? 7? 10? because if you eat too late the food obviously won't digest because you will be sleeping, so I don't get this diet

I love how you twist my rejection of a low-carb diet into support of a low-fat one...

I think all three, protein (obviously), carbs, and fats, all of them, all important.

One shouldn't cut any to cut fat, you have people like Susan Powter promoting the low-fat craze and atkins promoting the low-carb craze when in reality it's about finding healthier sources of all the three and moderation of intake (calories, much as I hate the term) vs the amount you expend in a day (preferably at rest through muscle burning).

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“	Originally Posted By: Tyciol I love how you twist my rejection of a low-carb diet into support of a low-fat one...	”

Who the F is twisting things other than you?

Storm just added that the FDA's low-fat recommendation is horse doo-doo to point out that other diets have a much worse track record than Atkins. And as a matter of fact, the FDA is in the process of changing its recommendations again, probably to something even more convoluted and knee-jerk than its pyramid diet.

Also, some of the people who are on ANY diet are still fat. Blaming one kind of diet on that is just BS.

“	Originally Posted By: Non-Existent what does it mean by eating at night? like 5 pm? 6? 7? 10? because if you eat too late the food obviously won't digest because you will be sleeping, so I don't get this diet	”

The usual recommendation is don't eat after 7 p.m. However the food WILL digest while you're sleeping (the body doesn't totally shut down in sleep mode, in fact in some ways it's more active). There's no real proof that you'll gain weight if you eat after 7. In fact I regularly eat supper after 10 p.m. because that's how my day goes. However, I regulate what I eat because (a) I'm on South Beach, so I eat few/no carbs after lunchtime; and (b) I suffer from acid reflux occasionally and going to bed on a full stomach can trigger it or make it worse. So dinnertime is light (<500 cal.), high-protein & veggie, low-carb. Usually grilled fish/chicken and a veggie.

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