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January 14th, 2005, 06:31 PM
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Rep Power: 6 | | | Food questions for the experts! I've been reading a book on Kundalini Yoga, and this thing by this lady named Dr. Hulda Clark. I want to try things out, but a lot of this stuff I've never heard of before.
For those who have tried some things, or studied nutrition, or just know some common sense about what's good and bad to eat, hopefully you can provide some insight to questions, as well as the foods listed to say which I definately shouldn't have and why. A lot of this is really weird, so I don't expect it all to be answered... I was just hoping for some quick help initially before I delve into researching some of the materials myself.
FOOD QUESTIONS
Does eating products made with white flour along with drinking milk make a gluey substance in the stomach as it does outside of it
Do some meats not digest fast enough (within 18-24 hours) and putrify to become toxic to my body
Do some meats contain Uric Acid, a carcinogen in the blood that causes cancer and is irritating
Does the adrenaline secreted by an animal upon dying become poison when we eat it
Does fish dehydrate the body be continuing to absorb water like it does when alive
Garlic, Onion, Ginger are good no matter what quantity... I can have lots and lots right Ginseng too
Turmeric Never heard of it before now. I hear it helps get rid of toxins and lubricates the joints, and turns your poo orange, as well as badly staining your clothes in it's natural form.
If my stool sinks instead of floats, does that mean I'm not properly digesting all my food and not absorbing all that I should be from it
Is it healthy to brush your teeth and gums with salt and potassium alum
Elderberries, Choke Berries apparently good... but any poisons or negative side effects
Black Walnut Hull
Wormwood
Cloves
Arginine
Ornithine
Hydrangea Root
Gravel Root
Marshmallow Root
Black Cherry
Vitamin B2
Parsely
Goldenrod
Uva Ursi
Vitamin B6
Magnesium Oxide
Hydrochloric Acid
Comfrey Root
Tanner's Oak Bark
Jacob's staff
Licorice Root
Wild Yam Root
Milk Thistle Herb
Walnut Bark
Skullcap
Epsom salts (ingested)
Betaine Hydrochloride
Fennel
Digestive Enzyme Tablets
Cascara Sagrada
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January 14th, 2005, 09:14 PM
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Rep Power: 37 | | | Garlic, Onion, Ginger are good no matter what quantity... I can have lots and lots right Ginseng too turmeric...
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well all of them hav herbal properties... but if you eat lots of em u might hav problems..
garlic, ginger,onion etc eating too much in summer is not advisable...technically in ayurveda they hav warm/hot property so eating in summer is not good for you.. you should eat stuff that hav cold property...
doh.. it's hard to explain...
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I hear it helps get rid of toxins and lubricates the joints, and turns your poo orange,
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u got this point right... it also has healing property. it helps in healing any internal injuries you might have... some people in this part of world drinks milk with half tea spoon of turmeric daily..
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Does eating products made with white flour along with drinking milk make a gluey substance in the stomach as it does outside of it
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Never heard of this... we hav chappati's which are made of white flour...and sometimes I just add milk and hav it.. ...
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Do some meats not digest fast enough (within 18-24 hours) and putrify to become toxic to my body
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most probably it'll be out from ur system by that time... ur body has it's natural mechanism, it throws out any unwanted stuff it no longer needs..
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January 14th, 2005, 09:57 PM
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Rep Power: 78 | | | daiyam.... lots of questions. let's see. Hulda Reger Clark - considered by some as barrier breaking, others a quack. You have to see who's saying what.
SO we have to look for confirmation among other healing modalities, system etc.
FOOD QUESTIONS
Does eating products made with white flour along with drinking milk make a gluey substance in the stomach as it does outside of it
***I know gluten and dairy are one of the most common allergens and can cause phlem which is also not a good thing in TCM. A lot of people are allergic to gluten and can cause toxins buildup in some people. Milk is not easily digested - dammit it was for cows.
Do some meats not digest fast enough (within 18-24 hours) and putrify to become toxic to my body
***Well meat rots in air so that makes sense. However, if the person is not digesting it in 24 hours, there is a more serious problem. Need more acid. Perhaps pinapple will help.
Do some meats contain Uric Acid, a carcinogen in the blood that causes cancer and is irritating
***I guess. I heard from other nutritionist about that as well.
Does the adrenaline secreted by an animal upon dying become poison when we eat it
***Poison - If it's in the muscles/meat we eat and absorbed, it's not that good. One reason a lot of culture calms the animal before slowly draining the blood so there is no struggle. Meat is not so tough either. A lot is whetehr the meat is drained of blood. Or aged properly in the case of beef.
Does fish dehydrate the body be continuing to absorb water like it does when alive
***HUH
Garlic, Onion, Ginger are good no matter what quantity... I can have lots and lots right Ginseng too
***Yes to first part. Genseng is a medicine. Not all people should take it and there are different types of genseng - some cooling and some warming. Some can take American Genseng and be good for them but Korean ginseng - make them bleed though nose.
Turmeric Never heard of it before now. I hear it helps get rid of toxins and lubricates the joints, and turns your poo orange, as well as badly staining your clothes in it's natural form.
***It's in Curry mixes and used in some dit da jow. It's got an anti-inflammatory property as well.
If my stool sinks instead of floats, does that mean I'm not properly digesting all my food and not absorbing all that I should be from it
***It means it's more dense - hehe
Is it healthy to brush your teeth and gums with salt and potassium alum
***Salt is a natural antiseptic - so it's not a bad idea - like rinsing mouth with sea salt when you have sore throat. Brushing with it - may be abraisive. Potassium Alum - dunno.
Elderberries, Choke Berries apparently good... but any poisons or negative side effects
***Dunno
The first three herbs you mention is used for parasite cleanses. Guess what some of them are used in moxa sticks along with accupuncture. To build up chi. When ingested in small amounts (in large amount it's poison) it kills the various stages of parasites - like the eggs, larva, adults etc.
As for the other herbs, some are good for the liver - like milk thistle but recent research have shown not as much as once thought.
All those herbs have healing properties - the problem with people in the west is they think - "Hey if that is good for an erection, it must be good for me" - Wrong - it depends on your constitution so you may not be able to handle that herb or may need to have it combined with something else. THe dosage is important too.
SO _ YOU NEED TO SEE A PHYSICIAN. DO NOT, I MEAN DO NOT BUY HERBS FROMA CATALOG COMPANY AND START TREATING YOURSELF!!!!!!!!!!
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January 14th, 2005, 10:47 PM
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Rep Power: 6 | | | My physician refuses to discuss it. All he sells is his stupid weight loss program, with no concerns as to muscle or health. It's to a bunch of dumb old fat people who eat blocks of cheese that are a pound. They don't like carbs either.
All he perscribed for my recent pains is rest, even to my cysts. Don't cysts become cancerous Rest hasn't made them go away for months, I don't see why they would now. | 
January 15th, 2005, 08:21 AM
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Doctors (western) arn't really concerned with your health. They are concerned that your immediate symptoms are eleviated. They patch. So you keep coming back. Hate to say it but you are residual income.
As for cyst - not all become cancerous - they can. Most are fine - just need ot be cut off, I think. Can be painful.
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January 15th, 2005, 09:15 AM
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Rep Power: 6 | | | Another good question to ask ones self is how effecient is ones own body/mind able to convert solid/liqiud/air/ into useful energy forms/no form and eliminate what is not needed effeciently.What type of awarness should one have so they can feel their body and methods that help the body feel alive and refresh every cell with the practice.
When the body is penetrated with the light of awarness no more question you can feel the effects of the food you eat at once and change with the ebb and flow of energy/time/ season/ knowing oneself and the conditions one is in.
something considered right for one person to ingest may have adverse effects on another. | 
January 15th, 2005, 09:07 PM
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Rep Power: 6 | | | Right. The first part doesn't matter at all. As for all people being different, I know, and the only way I'll find out is by trying it. There are certain things, however, that don't agree with anyone. For example: a litre of cyanide. Things have trends and percentages associated with them in telling us how many people can generally take it, and what kind of people can or can not based on previous studies and experience. I want to benefit from that. | 
January 15th, 2005, 11:02 PM
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Rep Power: 153 | | | Does eating products made with white flour along with drinking milk make a gluey substance in the stomach as it does outside of it
-- No. Your stomach has acids in it which break down the flour & milk very quickly. Also, products made with white flour (cookies) have other ingredients in them so they don't become rock-hard dough chunks when baked. Do some meats not digest fast enough (within 18-24 hours) and putrify to become toxic to my body
-- If you eat fresh meat in small quantities, this is not an issue. If you have to have a 36-oz. porterhouse every meal, digestion is an issue. (Along with your cholesterol level, sheesh) Do some meats contain Uric Acid, a carcinogen in the blood that causes cancer and is irritating
-- Never heard of this. Does the adrenaline secreted by an animal upon dying become poison when we eat it
-- Don't know ... however, when I was taught how to kill & dress animals (chickens, rabbits), we were instructed how to kill them as quickly & painlessly as possible. Not only is it merciful, but the instructor said that the meat of animals that experience pain/fear before dying does not taste good. Why, he didn't say. Does fish dehydrate the body be continuing to absorb water like it does when alive
-- No. Garlic, Onion, Ginger are good no matter what quantity... I can have lots and lots right Ginseng too
-- Go for it. Turmeric Never heard of it before now. I hear it helps get rid of toxins and lubricates the joints, and turns your poo orange, as well as badly staining your clothes in it's natural form.
-- Some folks are turned off by the taste. It's found in curry; often added to other dishes for color. It has a "deep heat," not fast like chili but long-lasting. If my stool sinks instead of floats, does that mean I'm not properly digesting all my food and not absorbing all that I should be from it
-- No, it means there's not enough bulk fiber in your diet. Eat whole grains & leafy greens & you'll be fine. Is it healthy to brush your teeth and gums with salt and potassium alum
-- It doesn't hurt but damn, does it taste nasty. Elderberries, Choke Berries apparently good... but any poisons or negative side effects
-- No, unless you pick them from the side of the road, then be careful of poisoning from stuff deposited on the fruit, wash it well. If you eat a lot, you'll get the ****s, but that's not unusual for "soft" fruits.
On the other stuff: there are books on all those, read up -- too much to explain in a forum. Or go to a homeopathic doctor, who will make up a medicine designed just for your needs.
I do know that:
Wormwood -- is poisonous, but is often distilled to make absinthe, which was what van Gogh was drinking when he decided that cutting off his ear and mailing it to the gal he liked was a "fabulous" idea. I'd avoid the stuff.
Hydrochloric acid -- how did THAT get on your list That'll burn a hole completely through you!
Epsom salts -- make you poopety poopety poop. That's a lotta poop. If you use it for "cleansing" you will unbalance your system drastically, better to eat your greens regularly.
Digestive enzyme tablets -- the natural ones are usually papaya, they work pretty well. Or you can just buy fresh or dried papaya, and get the added benefits that whole fruit provides.
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January 15th, 2005, 11:08 PM
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I just wanna add to this: Fish don't "absorb water." If they did, they would swell up like balloons and dissolve. This sort of thing is a deterrent to actual life, so fish don't do that. They aren't sponges.
Rather, fish filter the oxygen from the water and into their system. This is done by intaking water through the mouth and then passing it out through the gills. The water does not enter their body at all, unless they choose to "drink" a little, just as we drink when we are thirsty, and then the water goes through their digestive system and out just as it does ours.
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January 16th, 2005, 03:58 AM
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Rep Power: 24 | | | Yeah, but it passes through a whole lot more quickly than in humans. You ever go fishing and catch a bluegill Sometimes, you have to hold it a foot away from you and squeeze it, otherwise holding it to hard when taking out the hook will result in it peeing all over you.
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January 16th, 2005, 08:38 AM
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January 17th, 2005, 09:49 AM
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Rep Power: 24 | | | Boats are a waste of time when going for bluegill, but it is a type of defensive/warning reaction. A fishes pee contains a fluid that warns the other members of the school about danger and tells them to flee. But I guess I better stop hijacking the thread, let's get back to food.
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January 17th, 2005, 12:01 PM
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Rep Power: 69 | | meats digest in you stomach FASTER than any other solid food. Your stomach will have completely chemically changed the meat in a very short amount of time, an hour or two at most. Meat takes longer to fully digest once it has moved into the intestines, but by then it has been broken down . IMO, most assertions in this direction are vegetarian propoganda.
Stool floating is a matter of fiber content. It doesn't matter how much meat you eat, if you eat a lot of fiber, your stool will still float, and I can prove it  . Definately have a lot of fiber in your diet. I have to warn you though, just generically eating fruit, grains and veggies won't give you high fiber, MANY of these products only have one or two grams of fiber per serving. Nuts, certain beans, and bran fibers, and certain veggies have a high fiber content which can be supplemented with one of the many psyllum husk products like metamucil.
Garlic, onion, and ginger are all very excellent for you. Ginger is very good for your digestive system, as well as other things. Garlic and onion help you manage allegergies and inflammation, garlic is about the strongest anti oxidant you can get in food form and it also kills bacteria and microbes.
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January 17th, 2005, 12:04 PM
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Rep Power: 69 | | | The assertion about fish is also silly vegetarian propoganda, I can't even count the studies that show fish is good for you.
Be a good Taoist, follow the middle way, be balanced, eat your veggies, fruits, nuts, seeds, whole grains, AND meats.
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January 17th, 2005, 12:14 PM
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The assertion about fish is also silly vegetarian propoganda, I can't even count the studies that show fish is good for you.
Be a good Taoist, follow the middle way, be balanced, eat your veggies, fruits, nuts, seeds, whole grains, AND meats. | ” | |
well said big guy!!!!
food is good!!!!
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