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Old August 26th, 2008, 11:30 PM
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Well',...it's not exactly 'celibacy BS',...just like,(as I've mentioned in other threads), when the football Coach told you to stay away from your girlfriend the week of the big game!,...LOL'! There is a definate Chinese IMA bio-mechanic reason behind it. The storing/releasing of the 'Jing' essence is a normal balenced function of the human body. Coach Li
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Old August 27th, 2008, 01:34 AM
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Maybe I'm just too young to understand.

But you're right if I'm gonna fight or something I probably won't have sex.

Work up all that pent-up anger on the inside!!!!!!!
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I also learned a praying mantis fist style from watching the actual insect itself. This was before I actually learned some seven star mantis.

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Many serious Pro fighters avoid sex for a week or two leading up to a fight. That's because even a little lost energy is no good, especially if you make your living this way.

However, besides that "buffer" before a fight, they will lead normal sex lives without a problem.

If you don't fight, and are just training. Then I don't see a problem. As long as you don't go overboard. As everyone has said, moderation.
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I also learned a praying mantis fist style from watching the actual insect itself. This was before I actually learned some seven star mantis.

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The taiji greats (Yang Luchan, Quan You, Hao Weizhen, etc.) seem to almost always have fathered children and passed their arts on to them.

The xingyi greats (Li Luoneng, Song Shirong, Shang Yunxiang, etc.) seem to usually have had children and often passed their arts to them (unlike taiji, though, the next generation's greats were usually newcomers).

The bagua greats (Dong Haichuan, Liu Fengchun, Guo Gumin, etc.) seem to have a higher chance of not having had any children; if they did, they often did not want to learn bagua
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Some people claim there's some valid chemistry basis for the various tantric practices - retention, abstinence, reabsorbtion, and mixing with ash and absorbing through the skin.

I've loaned out the book with the details in but it's to do with absorbing/retaining hormones.
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A whole forum section devoted to hsing yi! crazy!

I was taught by my first hsing yi teacher, that ejaculation detracts from both internal strength and progress in hsing yi. Later, he criticised people on the frequency of their sexual relations while we were outside of class one day.

My current hsing yi teacher who is 40 years farther along in the internal arts, has yet to mention anything about sexual activity and it's effects on hsing yi power.

Someone once told me, that pressing the point between the anus and scrotum with the middle finger just prior to ejaculation will prevent jing from escaping, or qi in the form of jing.

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Dear Iron_leg_dave, ...lol'...I like that name! ,... anyway, refer back to my post at the end of pg.2 and the top of this page. But, again,...it is a true practice to push on the 'Huai-Yin' point between the anus and groin to keep the Jing,(ejaculation), from leaving the penis,...BUT, doctors have found that this is a 'very' un-healthy practice! The seman still goes somewhere in the bladder, or seminal tubes, and can cause small ruptures and blockages! It does NOT stay in the testicles! If it 'was' possible to keep the Jing in the testicles ,...you would eventually have a case' of Blue-Balls Soooo bad, that you would probably be like the 'mad-dog' of the neighborhood,....humping anything you could wrap your legs around!,..lol'! A balanced practice of a little YIN,(storing),...a little YANG,(releasing), as a natural function is always Best! Coach Li
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Dear Iron_leg_dave, ...lol'...I like that name! ,... anyway, refer back to my post at the end of pg.2 and the top of this page. But, again,...it is a true practice to push on the 'Huai-Yin' point between the anus and groin to keep the Jing,(ejaculation), from leaving the penis,...BUT, doctors have found that this is a 'very' un-healthy practice! The seman still goes somewhere in the bladder, or seminal tubes, and can cause small ruptures and blockages! It does NOT stay in the testicles! If it 'was' possible to keep the Jing in the testicles ,...you would eventually have a case' of Blue-Balls Soooo bad, that you would probably be like the 'mad-dog' of the neighborhood,....humping anything you could wrap your legs around!,..lol'! A balanced practice of a little YIN,(storing),...a little YANG,(releasing), as a natural function is always Best! Coach Li

That's good information. I used to get blueballs so bad that I couldn't walk, when I was doing hsing yi with my old teacher. I would literally have to sit, or lie down for an hour after sex. Eventually, blue balls goes away on it's own, if you do some stretching, light gong fu etc. and get the blood flowing. I was only 19-23 when I trained under him, so I bought the snake oil antics completely.

Being a little older, and looking back, I hope I didn't increase my chances of prostate problems later in life!

Thanks for the information.
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I never understood this whole theory.

Seems to help me more than hinder in any way. I know I'm usually WORSE off the more I abstain. Unfocused, tired, grumpy, negative... Not good.

Not sure why it'd be any different in xingyiquan than in any other physical activity. Here's some links.

Sex and Sports: Should Athletes Abstain Before Big Events?

BBC NEWS | UK | Magazine | The myths of sex before sport

Sex before sports definition - Medical Dictionary definitions of popular medical terms easily defined on MedTerms
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