Testing short power,

Hi All,

Here are some clips of Alex testing short power on a student who is rooting etc.

One of the purposes of this sort of work is to find the 'line' inside the opponent that will disrupt their structure.

Alex is being careful not to land his power inside the student, and so projects past him resulting in him flying off ... In a real altercation the guy wouldn’t go anywhere but would fall where he stands.

These sort of short power explosions are excellent in very close in fighting where you don’t have much room to move. Good against grapples.

Here is shocking the system to enter. Note the reaction in Simons head ... this really shakes your brain around.

http://www.ukbaguainstitute.co.uk/XYQshockandEnter.wmv

Here is zero distance Tsuan Chuan (drilling fist - power down to up). Testing against a rooted stable structure.

http://www.ukbaguainstitute.co.uk/XY...illingfist.wmv

Here is a Beng Chuan, with a large frequency so as not to hurt the guys insides. the shorter the frequency the more damage to the guy and the less he flys away.

http://www.ukbaguainstitute.co.uk/fivefists3.wmv

Interested in how people explore 'short power' in their systems.

How do you train it? how do your practice it with a partner? when is it applicable in real combat.

Thanks
Chris

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Thanks for sharing again Chris!


As for training it, we don't train on short power per se. But rather our motions, the motion itself contains power whether it's long or short.

When we do practice it, we are in close distance.

As for application, that's what real combat is all about IMHO. The ability to generate short power is key.

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Thanks Jawsman.

We train the power in our Nei Gong work. Then apply it against a connected or rooted structure to see if the principle is correct. It is important for us at this stage to make sure the partner is Brutally honest. Trying to resist your push. this makes sure that the power will work through a resisting and connected structure.

We then move onto 'freeflow drills' Where the power is applied in a free format.

A nice one is getting someone to stand up grapple you or try for hip throws and you use short power from the hips, shoulders and hands to stop them or strike them. This takes alot of nei gung and control though. Its easy to injure the insides of the opponent though so control is needed.

Cheers
Chris

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I practice my short power with a stick, placed on a jelly ball (a gymnastic ball filled with water) and using rapid pushes.

I don´t like to practice that on a partner, right now I "only" cause a bruise if I place my hand on an extended arm and issue downward power.

Lately I do more work on my intercostal/deep torso musculature to get a little more "oomph" into my short moves.

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Ah.... very nice guys. Okay, please excuse my stupidity here but, it sounds to me like you guys are practicing short power through push methods? Which can then be applied to impact in actual events? Right?


For us, we also work it this way as well. But when we actually train for it, it's all impact on our partner, no pushing. Mind you we try to add "effort" as to decrease the power output.

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Well, the very short internal alignment procedure can be applied to any impact. Especially when hitting someone the compression effect speeds up considerably.

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Very true Necronos.

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Its not necisarily a push that we train, just a longer 'wave' or frequency to the strike which leaves the person and projects them back.

If you imagine taking that wave in length and making in tighter it will come closer to the opponents back untill it is inside them. Then the damage happens. Like your focusing your power inside the opponents structure. Not good.

Practicing this way makes sure no one takes an unplanned trip to the hospital!! ha haha

But we also practice on heavy bags where the power is focused inside the bag. Normally striking with the fist resting on the bag itself, good training.

There is a definate sequence to training this sort of force.

From just placing the fist of striking surface onto the body of the opponent and very softly finding the line through there structure ... normally a spiral. to pushing in those lines
to striking with long frequency in those lines
to striking with shorter frequency in those lines
to applying it in 'freeflow' drills.

All great training!!

cheers
Chris

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Understood.

We train in almost the same fashion, just a little different. From the clip, it seemed like the opposing structure was off balnaced through the use of short power, which is very nice indeed.

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We concentrate on speed and focus in short range power. This is prehaps best demonstrate in the clips of breaking here

http://ukwingchun.com/Wing_Chun_Kung_Fu_Video.htm

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FF - thats "long" or power Short power refers to contact range, without any drawing back.

If the practioners on the video would put their hand ON the object and then issue force resulting in a break, that´d be more interesting for us internal stuff nuts.

A classmate of Chen Man Ching could put his hand on top of a pile of bricks and pulverize - without much sound the bricks below the top one.

On EF was a video of someone with a specific iron palm skill who did something similar.

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“	Originally Posted By: Necronos FF - thats "long" or power Short power refers to contact range, without any drawing back. If the practioners on the video would put their hand ON the object and then issue force resulting in a break, that´d be more interesting for us internal stuff nuts. A classmate of Chen Man Ching could put his hand on top of a pile of bricks and pulverize - without much sound the bricks below the top one. On EF was a video of someone with a specific iron palm skill who did something similar.	”

did you watch the video? People are putting their hands on the object and breaking it- like holding a piece of pine board in one hand and breaking it with the other, and palm striking 6 tiles...

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Yes FF I have seen. (at least the video called "breaking" They put their fingers onto the board, then pull back rapidly and then strike. At least that was visible on the "breaking" video, since there also were slow-motions.

Don´t get me wrong, thats excellent performance, yet no short power as I understand it.

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None of those videos ever work for me.

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