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Old June 28th, 2002, 12:07 PM
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Majority of people out there doing TaiJi are doing it for the health benefits and moving nice and slowly, exercise etc.

You're not going to change that ...

If interested in expressing the traditional principles - take note of traditional ways of training.

That involves practice of simple short movements from the form on their own as drills at various speeds, standing practice, expressing power in postures and movements, testing posture, getting used to emitting and receiving power in various two man drills, pushing hands going through to more than the "I give you a litte push and you fall over - else you're fighting me and that's bad", practicing the form at extremely slow speed (takes well over an hour for one of the long forms) etc.

Practicing long enough and hard enough that one is truly comfortable in one's own physical skill. So when someone asks "what is going on - doesn't look like much" a demonstration can be easily given that removes all doubt (say a little itsy bitsy soft tap on the chest ... )

Particular note needs to be taken of the standing, practising of simple movements on their own, and testing posture. This is the way real root and center is developed. Because one is being tested, and practicing each thing enough over and over again so one really comes to know the movement - the principle.

Oh, and practice for an absolute minimum of 1 hour a day (requirement for developing any sort of skill).

And most important of all ---- find a teacher who can truly express the full art and is passing the full art on. Learn from them their methods of practice and training.

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I do San Ti meditation half and hour every day plus I practice horse stance every day, I would do tea cup exercises and walk the circle but these require instruction which I can not get. But for me finding your root is just having a low center of gravity+plus hella strong legs+being able to listen to other's "force". In this I am progressing fairly well. The 5 elements are difficult to comprehend entirely (I belive this because I want everything, but I guess I'll have to be patient). TaiJi exponents only suffer because many schools teach the rainbow style of TaiJi ..There is absolutely nothing wrong with the techniques taught in TaiJiQuan, it is just that these techniques are rarely taught, however weird that may sound. But I digress. So I can first hand say that Xing Yi is shorter in the same way that karate is shorter (cuz you learn how to hit things properly ) though XingYi's road may be long, you can see you are going somewhere right away

I'm glad to see this thread grow
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Take two fighters. Both completely equal (of course, this is COMPLETELY theoretical). One fighter trains in Hsing I for 5 years, the other in Tai Chi. With all things equal (teachers, training, diet, etc) I believe the Hsing I fighter will have an edge because of the basic exterior external features of Hsing I. With 10 years training, I believe you'd see them being more equalized and with 20 years....well, that's a showdown I'd love to see.
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under the same circumstances as old man's scenario who would win out of Pau kau, Hsing-I, and Tai Chi(the three sisters arts)
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impossible to foresee, really.

but we digress
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Old man I agree with you. I also, believe that after twenty years most styles of CMA would be a very interesting siight to see.
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