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Kyokushinkai Karate & Hsing I

Hi Guys,

The influence of Hsing i on Kyokushinkai karate stems from Kenichi Sawai (sp) of the taiki ken.

Does anyone know how heavily Oyama Sensei was influenced by this hsing i

and how Kyokushinkai today displays aspects of hsing i

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Re: Kyokushinkai Karate & Hsing I

Originally posted by chris_davis01
Hi Guys,

The influence of Hsing i on Kyokushinkai karate stems from Kenichi Sawai (sp) of the taiki ken.

Does anyone know how heavily Oyama Sensei was influenced by this hsing i

and how Kyokushinkai today displays aspects of hsing i

cheers
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Interesting question: There is little or a lot of Xingyiquan influence in all fist arts that are from the Ryukyu Islands. It really depends on how you look at it. White crane is supposed to be highly influential to Ryukyu arts in general and I see a lot of Xingyiquan in Fukien white crane. (the half internal/half external parts)

Xingyiquan has been around for a long time. Some say around 1600's with Jinx boxing, others say it goes back to 1200's.

China had a huge influence on the Ryukyu Islands (Okianowan Islands) before the Japanese invaded in the 1600's. Imo.... this is why karate has more in common with Chinese martial arts rather than Japanese arts. So, Xingyiquan being Chinese could have influenced White Crane which in turn influenced Ryukyu arts...etc...

Outside of the Shaolin side of CMA, the Xingyi side with arts that relate, like Yi Quan, Baji Quan etc... They appear to be just as old and just as influential across the board in China. We in the West just don't see it.

As for as Kyokushinkai Karate, in Japan I remember hearing that a few upper Dan's experimented with Xingyiquan in the early 1970's. However, the Last time I saw a Kyokushinkai Karate tournament, I didn't see a lot of Xingyi influence on techniques. I saw really good Karate, but nothing I would call Xingyi influenced
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