Chicken Walking

It seems to me that the Chicken step of XingYi would be very good as a strengthening exercise when performed in about a 80-120 step range. Does anyone think this would be good stability training

i agree that it's good training, but the major benefits I would say were not stability.

I would believe that stability would occur as a natural process of not wanting to fall over

Instead what I would say the major benefits of the stepping would be to learn how to judge distances between yourself and the opponent, in terms of bridging gaps, finding spaces to attack, and of course to back off if necessary.

I believe its best to understand chicken stepping not just as a means of moving from A to B, but as a method of moving from A to B, via C, whilst dodging D, E and F, thus making the stepping very 'jerky', 'twitchy' but also solid when needed.

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we do it sometimes as a warm up
it's good

Man.... Jixingbu (chicken stepping) is BY FAR one of the most important exercises of XYQ. It's bebefits:

1 - Proper stepping paters to use Baofali (explosive power)
2 - Training of Doujing (vibration force)
3 - Develop what I call "expansive power" which is peng to all directions.
4 - Balance

There;s much more. One could write an article about it. Easy.

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“	I believe its best to understand chicken stepping not just as a means of moving from A to B, but as a method of moving from A to B, via C, whilst dodging D, E and F	”

err....umm....

Ok

[idiot mode] Anyone care to fill me in how it's done but sorta simpler... [/idiot mode]

Thanx,

|Cain|

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Maybe upload an article about it when ur page is up, Tadzio


...basic essencial info.....priceless.....

In the meantime, Li Xiao long lost me a little. I hope he would please expand on the Chicken stepping to train distance.

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Ok, perhaps my previous post wasn't that clear.

If you've ever seen **** fights - which is where we get the term chicken stepping - you'll see that they dont actually step in a 'positive manner'. In this I mean by the fact "your feet go here and here, and only ever here and here" (think karate kata style). They are more inclined to be continually shifting weight from one claw to the other, moving and dodging, trying to gain the best strategic position in which to attack from.

****s are known for their speed and tenacity. Alas most people wont have ever seen this due to the thousands of years of domestication (and the widespread banning of **** fighting), but in some parts of USA and the Far East you will still see the 'traditionally' bred fighting ****s.

Their method of movement and attacking with their claws relies on the fact that they dont have arms to attack with, and though you can argue they have beaks, the comparative size means they cant actually bite that much.

When we relate this in general to martial arts, we have the saying "stand balanced like the rooster" (shi er xing). Problem is though, if you ever see ****s fighting, you'll see that they may stand balanced, but they dont stand still!

So, when myself and others of our xing yi class practice we are always adjusting our stances, shuffling, moving feet - essentially doing whatever is needed to ensure that we gain the best strategic advantage over our opponent. To the 'untrained' eye, it may look like we're just quickly moving our feet to recover from one position to go into another (on some people that has been likened to almost looking like an Irish jig), but through the movement we achieve balance, since we know where and why we put our feet.

This increased speed in our feet means that not only are we light footed, but also allows our attacks to be initiated much quicker, and if need to, get out of the way much quicker too.


If you're still unclear as to my meaning, consider the following example:

combined bear/eagle movement (bear tzuan/eagle pi)

If your starting from san ti, you would need to shift your lead leg diagonally out such that you're forming the proper base for the bear xing. Without it, you will be weak and your defense almost useless.

From the refined/conservative movement of bear, we then go straight into a very dynamic and deep movement of eagle pi.

However, if you hadn't 'shuffled' your feet previously, you would be in a bad position to execute this movement. Thus you would need to take some kind of 'shuffle' movement just to get yourself back into a suitable position to execute pi.

Now, the overal time to execute the two movements correctly,(with balance etc), will be shorter if the adjusting step is included for the bear xing, than if it is 'added in' in between the bear and the eagle, since there would be a total of 2 destinct movements when done correctly, and a minimum of 3 when done incorrectly.

Better now, or should I go on

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the **** makes your post look like your are on about something else

hehe I was
replace **** with chicken/rooster/mc Nugget

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