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Old February 1st, 2004, 12:35 PM
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I know SLT's been gone a while.

Anyways, when I do the 5 E, I do mostly in the manner of cultivating. I try not to fajing too much. A lot has to do with sinking first, alignment and like storm said - remove blockages and sink...sink...sink...then move while sinking...then move in unity...and the jing will come.
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oh, then again - depends on what jing we're talking about - the pi, beng, pao etc.

There are specific excercises for each.
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stop playing with yourself, spanking the gorilla, milking the reptile - whatever...

Now that you're single again - it's time to do that...

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Seriously though...

So as not to overdrain your Jing, how often is sexual activity recommended Or in this case recommended to be abstained from
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you can never have sex o "spank the monkey again" MUAHAHAHAHA
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according to TCm theory - not enough for me.

It's relative - excess for one is not enough for another - all depends on their kidney essense.

In the "Classic of the simple girl" (sui dynasty 581-618), there's recommendation. Sex as pertains to actual ejacualtion for men and orgasm by women.

Age In good health Ave./health
15 2x/day Once/day
20 2x/day Once/day
30 Once/day Every other day
40 Every 3 day Every 4 day
50 Every 5 day Every 10 day
60 Every 10 day Every 20 day
70 Every 30 day None


Should be taken as a broad guideline - not literally. It's also seasonal. More in spring, less in winter etc.


It's an alien concept in western culture.

Men is affected more - women recover faster.

Although women's genetal physiology in TCM is related to blood - men's is related to the kidney essense/jing.



Then again - it's not only what you do, it's how it's done and under what circumstance.

If done drunk - is more harmful. Catching a chill right after is bad.



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sorry - the spacing didn't work.

there should be three columns.

Age

then in good health

Then in ave health...
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I fa jing quite a bit. I have 4 kids to show for that.

*Wiping the tears of laughter from my eyes*

Dude, you kill me. I hope you never stop gracing us with you combination of good advice, knowledge and humor!
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So does Jing essence eminate from the Kidneys

you can never have sex o "spank the monkey again" MUAHAHAHAHA

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kidney essense is jing - jing is a type of essence like all the otehr fluids in the body - celebral spinal, synovial, saliva.

Jing/sperm in this case if not used (ejaculated) is reabsorbed intot he body and gives the inidividual alertness.

Jing shen - or essense and spirit - is the term for people with spirit, alertness etc. It's is the proper conversion of jing to chi to shen.. A refining process. After excessive emmision of jing, a person can pass out, in the sense zone out - spirit is lost a little there - becomes a little in dreamland.


To answer your question, the kidney essense - it's both preheaven and post heaven (prebirth/post birth). Both hereditary energy which determines one's constitution as well as interacting with the postbirth essence and can be replenished. tha's where chi gong comes in. Replenishing post heaven/post birth chi/essense.



Kidney essense is stored in the kidneys but it's fluid so it circulates the body. It determines growth, reproduction, developement, sexual maturation, conceptiona and pregnancy etc. So it's very important in TCM.




To head you off at the pass

essense and chi

Essense is derived from parents - chi from is formed after birth
essence is fluid - chi is energy
essence is mostly in the kidneys - chi is everywhere
essence is replenished with difficulty - chi can be replenished daily
essense follow long cycles (7-8 years) - chi shorter cycle, some yearly, some shorter (cycles reltes to many things one of which is maturity)
essence moves slowly - chi quickly.

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So...a lot of the internal energies are driven by our sexual power

Also, I have *HEARD* that if a man goes long enough without ejaculating he can actually hurt himself internally. Something about it being bad for the plumbing down there. Any truth to this
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hmm - one at a time.

It's not driven by our sexual power. It is converted from that like a fuel. Think of jing like coal. By itself - not much use - to be ejacualted - but if you use it in a train, it burns and converts that to heat energy to heat water to creat steam to pwer the train - energy conversion is all. that's why what we eat is crucial to out chi and jing development - no mystery there.




Constriction - can it hurt himself - okay let's think intent. Imagine you go ona trip witha bunch of guys - camping, hunting, fishing, working out - no thought of sex - do you feel frustrated


Now you go to strip bar, watch porn, flirt with women - do you get frustrated, what's teh difference - intent - the mind - the focus. this is one reason why the west is the highest in the world or sexual crimes. Thoughts all around with not outlet.

Bad for plumbing - well there are many thoguhts on that - it can be reabsorbed so no physiological damage - but mintal frustration - that's the problem. Just like just thinking about sex can carry blood to the genitals, it can move the fluid/jing there thereby causing a sense of stagnation, of constiction or backing up.


the mind can release this tension as well and redirect the thought

e.g.


What would happen were a guy to be in thsi frustrated state - and all of a sudden, someone breaks into his house and hold him at gun point to rob him - do you think he will still feel that sexual frustration/backup plumbing problem - not likely.


the mind is all...
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