A couple of quick questions

Hey, just wanted to ask a couple of quick questions that i have.

1. What Weapons exactly can you learn in Xing Yi And can anyone please give me links to the weapons Say, i never knew there were needles as weapons in xing yi, is it about the accupuncture theory like, you throw a needle, or insert it like in the movie "Kiss of the dragon" and then something bad happens to the person

2. I was wondering about training, it seems that Wanderlei Silva is training 6 hours a day, 6 days a week... And he is THAT good... So if i train many hours a day, WITH quality (say, 8 hours a day for the least and train all week which is 7 days) will i be able to be that good too Im a very spiritual person, so doing qi gong for example wont be a problem for me (since i LOVE doing meditation), ill close down my time on the internet by alot... All i want is to know that im good enough, and that i can protect myself even when someone is gonna come at me with a gun and ask for my money or something. Please comment on that!

3. not really a question but, all i wanna ask is if someone knows some training methods for gaining internal power Is a fah-jing really THAT deadly

4. Now thats the biggest question - WHY dont chinese people like to fight in duels Seriously, they should go, and show pride to the world, with their martial arts capabilities! show what a real chinese can do to a japanese karateka, so to stop their ego to be the best place for martial arts. And i know that their ego is big, since my karate kyokushinkai teacher told me, when we had this little confrontation "WE ARE DOING KARATE HERE! DONT DO ANY OTHER ART!" :O

I think i know the answer to the question: The art is too deadly, the rules in duels are too restricting since what they teach in the art (xing yi, for this example) is about using all the body as a weapon.

5. A good person, who can defend very well, how will the xing yi fighter defeat him

6. why am i being a fanatic about xing yi

“	Originally Posted By: XVampireX All i want is to know that im good enough, and that i can protect myself even when someone is gonna come at me with a gun and ask for my money or something. Please comment on that!	”

Give him the money. Why risk your life over the $50 in your wallet

“	And i know that their ego is big, since my karate kyokushinkai teacher told me, when we had this little confrontation "WE ARE DOING KARATE HERE! DONT DO ANY OTHER ART!" :O	”

Personally I think thats less ego then tradition. Mas Oyama believed that training more then one complete style at a time was counter-productive because you wouldn't be able to give each art your full attention. An interesting side note, I actually started taking Kung Fu because of a suggestion from my Kyokushin Sensei who also trains in kung fu.

“	I think i know the answer to the question: The art is too deadly, the rules in duels are too restricting since what they teach in the art (xing yi, for this example) is about using all the body as a weapon.	”

"too deadly"....thats a huge cop-out.

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“	Originally Posted By: XVampireX 1. What Weapons exactly can you learn in Xing Yi And can anyone please give me links to the weapons Say, i never knew there were needles as weapons in xing yi, is it about the accupuncture theory like, you throw a needle, or insert it like in the movie "Kiss of the dragon" and then something bad happens to the person	”

Traditional weapons in Xingyi are the spear, the broadsword, the staff and the Straight sowrd. But each family has their own weapons, some of them invented by the family head (Like the Unicorn knives, exclusive from Song Family Xingyi)

The Xingyi needles are not 'needles' at all...they are 18 (or more) inch needles, which look like knitting needles or steel chopsticks. You use them to stab or slash the opponent, one in each hand.

“	Originally Posted By: XVampireX 2. I was wondering about training, it seems that Wanderlei Silva is training 6 hours a day, 6 days a week... And he is THAT good... So if i train many hours a day, WITH quality (say, 8 hours a day for the least and train all week which is 7 days) will i be able to be that good too Im a very spiritual person, so doing qi gong for example wont be a problem for me (since i LOVE doing meditation), ill close down my time on the internet by alot... All i want is to know that im good enough, and that i can protect myself even when someone is gonna come at me with a gun and ask for my money or something. Please comment on that!	”

If you are very spiritual, then it's probably sure that you'll give your money away.

You will be as good as you can, if your training is persistent and smart. I know people who train XY for 3 hours (One form..rest, then take a walk, chat with friends, and do another form...etc), and some people who train one hour a day (Non-stop exercise, only take a minute or two to rest, and then get back to training, and like to use, apply and go deeper into what they train).

Guess who's gonna be better

I can't say you'll be as good as Silva because I don't know you, but who knows

“	Originally Posted By: XVampireX 3. not really a question but, all i wanna ask is if someone knows some training methods for gaining internal power Is a fah-jing really THAT deadly	”

Fah Jing is to issue power. If you can issue enough power to kill a person, yeah, it's that deadly.

“	Originally Posted By: XVampireX 4. Now thats the biggest question - WHY dont chinese people like to fight in duels Seriously, they should go, and show pride to the world, with their martial arts capabilities! show what a real chinese can do to a japanese karateka, so to stop their ego to be the best place for martial arts. And i know that their ego is big, since my karate kyokushinkai teacher told me, when we had this little confrontation "WE ARE DOING KARATE HERE! DONT DO ANY OTHER ART!" :O	”

That question has been asked many times. Some people will answer exactly like you predicted (The art is too deadly, the rules in duels are too restricting since what they teach in the art), but that's only an excuse, most of the time.

There are many reasons. UFC types of tournaments are not that well known in China, some good martial artists don't care about 'showing pride to the world', while others just don't have the time, or the money. They have family, work, etc. It depends on the individual.

But I know some Chinese Martial Arts practicioners (Not necessarily chinese guys) that train for tournaments, have been there, and are very good at it.

“	Originally Posted By: XVampireX 5. A good person, who can defend very well, how will the xing yi fighter defeat him	”

Remember the old quote: 'It's not the size of the dog in the fight. It's the size of the fight in the dog'. Generally the Xingyi strategy is to occupy space, stealing balance, entering the enemy's defenses while attacking with strikes from everywhere, and pound the guy, pressing, advancing, until the opponent falls down, or is taken down by the XY fighter.

However, everything depends on the heart of the guy. If your will is not strong enough, and it doesn't match your skill, (example: You are not willing to end the fight while your opponent is braver and wants to go all the way), you'll find it very hard to beat him. I have known people on the streets with no MA experience at all, but they are brave and experienced enough to whack a good martial artist. It's all in the person.

“	Originally Posted By: XVampireX 6. why am i being a fanatic about xing yi	”

Because you recognize coolness when you see it

Hope this helps. I'm sorry if some of my answers are not clear enough, but some things are relative, and depend on the individual.

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Oyama, your criticizm is becoming annoying, can you please stop it

1. I love kung fu myself, mostly internal kung fu.
2. I wont give shiznat to the robber! IM TRAINING IN A MARTIAL ART FOR A PURPOSE! you got some problems there dude, im starting to realise that karate kyokushinkai isnt that good against real combat.
3. YES, XING YI IS DEADLY! I dare you to go against a xing yi practitioner, even one who practiced half your time, he would be able to kick your arse!


Felipe Bido:

1. Spirituality is not about giving something away, for a bad cause (since most robbers are doing it either for fun or for buying their own needs - IE: drugs, cigaretes, **** they cant get on their own. I do not want to work for someone else!

2. Never knew that needles are that kind of weapon, oh well... too bad :O
But is it actually possible to train real needles as arrows Like, throw them at a certain accupuncture and make the ***** suffer What i was thinking, sine needles, are pretty much unseen, they are a good weapon for a real fight!
Anyways, you got any links for all xing yi weapons Also, i've seen someone does xing yi, the only thing he does wrong is that he does it like taichi style! he thinks that xing yi being an internal art, is supposed to be like taichi! give me a break! Ill give you the link sooner or later (i disabled hebrew from my keyboard input settings).

3. How many hours do you think should be proficient to practice Xing Yi to become a master like the real masters... I dont mind practicing even 1 hour a day, as long as i have a plan on how to do everything.
Is Xing Yi about cultivating the qi through what exercises Qi Gong or the same thing as what Xing Yi gives
What about the being rooted concept My friend in the karate, when we spar... He likes staying down, he lacks speed and all because of that, and it doesnt quite help him with power. So i would like to know about the Xing Yi concept of staying rooted.

4. Fah Jing - Transferring or Issuing energy from one body into another. Yeah, i knew what it is, although im talking about the Fah Jing Strike itself (The what everything calls - an internal strike). Say, if i were to hit or be hitted with it, not for the intention to kill, but just to see what it is and all, or for example in a duel/challenge by mistake, how would it feel
I heard oyama killed someone in 1 strike, what did he use Internal power or External (He was all bulgy, err.... with alot of muscles) He also trained in many shaolin exercises (the candle exercise [issuing energy from distant], the bottle strike exercise [speed] and many others, he also created the 100 duels challenge) Was that why he was so strong [the 100 duels challenge] or the qi cultivation within the katas (All higher breathing katas: Seienchin, Kanku, Sanchin, etc... ) Basically, Oyama took everything from kenpo, which took it from shaolin, its all related (and here you go Oyama [talking about the forum guy], it was all from kung fu, the all powerful kung fu!)

5. Of course i can differ between cool and not cool, thats why im so unique :P

XVampireX,

Oyama is not critizing you, he is answering the questions YOU gave him. You might not agree with the answers, but then again...its kinda silly to ask questions if you already have the answers in your head and are not willing to listen to other thoughts. Isn't it

And to answer your questions:
1) As stated above by Felipe
2) You should train as much as time allows so long as your mind is totally into it. One thing you do not want to do is overtrain and cause injury to oneself. It is also possibe to burnout by overtraining, and that is not good at all.
3) Yes, and Yes to the fact that fa jing strikes are effective.
4) Oyama and Felipe both had good answers.
5) With greater skill.
6) Because you like what you see so far.

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Was just standing in a san ti, and damn! you feel like your whole body is united, and energy flows into the centre of your body. Now i see what they mean by that!

Gonna get a job soon, and im not gonna miss it!

Got 1 another question:

What are the differences between hebei and shanxi Since im probably going to learn hebei (the teacher teaches hebei), i want to know if its worth it, or should i go to shanxi Please, tell me all the differences between the two!

“	Originally Posted By: XVampireX Oyama, your criticizm is becoming annoying, can you please stop it 1. I love kung fu myself, mostly internal kung fu. 2. I wont give shiznat to the robber! IM TRAINING IN A MARTIAL ART FOR A PURPOSE! you got some problems there dude, im starting to realise that karate kyokushinkai isnt that good against real combat. 3. YES, XING YI IS DEADLY! I dare you to go against a xing yi practitioner, even one who practiced half your time, he would be able to kick your arse!	”

i felt the need after seeing your other thread to monitor your activity in the threads and fend off any of the ignorance that seeps through your foul lips as too shelter the mass from ignorant misconceptions...

1.agreed, gung fu is a brilliant martial art
2.martial arts are for defence, but on an equal level...any strategist will tell you KNOW your enemy, and dont hesitate to retreat when outmatched, and im not quite sure, but im THINKING Gun Fu outmatches Kung Fu...also...can you proove xing yi beats kyokushin have you witnessed duels between every single xing yi and kyokushin student/master...can you say for a FACT
3.ALSO...i bet youv never met Oyama so why the assumption that any Xing Yi fighter can kick his "arse"...for all you know he could be 7'4 500 pounds and have bones made of steel and be a disciple of mas oyama

lastly...your posts make my pride as a martial artist wither and die knowing that the future generation could be similar to you...in which case, i hope nuclear fallout occurs, to cleanse the world of our ignorance

This is an official warning to you XFlamingTigerX.

The Dragon's List does not tolerate members "monitoring" other people's activity and then posting insults to them. If you want to do this, take it to PM's (and if THAT gets out of hand there can be repercussions).

Since you are new this is your verbal warning. Please read the forum rules.

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Uuuuuweeee, just joined, and already got warnings.

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bahh, okok i apologize, i did not mean to insult...nor did i mean to "track/monitor" its just... i felt there was false information being presented in which really needs guidance in the worst manner possible...ill try to be more proffessional, thanks for the warning i suppose

Don't worry...most all of us will help to guide with a calm and patient hand. It works slightly better than a forceful smack to the face.

Plus I like to think that most all of the patrons of this board are intelligent folk who can spot B.S. when they see it without having to be told.

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“	Originally Posted By: WraithAlcon Don't worry...most all of us will help to guide with a calm and patient hand. It works slightly better than a forceful smack to the face. Plus I like to think that most all of the patrons of this board are intelligent folk who can spot B.S. when they see it without having to be told.	”

good point, instead of focusing on the few who speak loudest with the least knowledge i should focus more on those who speak truth in silence

“	Originally Posted By: WraithAlcon Plus I like to think that most all of the patrons of this board are intelligent folk who can spot B.S. when they see it without having to be told.	”

“	Originally Posted By: XFlamingTigerX good point, instead of focusing on the few who speak loudest with the least knowledge i should focus more on those who speak truth in silence	”

Awww, he learns so quick. Nah, just playing around. Anyways, it's much easier to have a good discussion, than a flaming discussion. Those get old real quick.

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Am i a bad person than
Sorry if i offended anyone

Edit: But to get to the point , i had a question - what are the differences between shanxi and hebei

“	Originally Posted By: jawsman it's much easier to have a good discussion, than a flaming discussion. Those get old real quick.	”

so i should change my name from flaming tiger to good tiger haha, surely i jest, flames can be good too..flames uhh..heal....(if you need to cotterize a wound)

though i REALLY wouldnt suggest using flames to heal a common cold or a small scratch