Lets Talk About *Intent*

Wow, lots of great input, thanks guys! =)

I started standing exercises last night and hope to do it twice a day--once in the morning and once at night. My hope is to progress well with this so I can start working the forms a little bit--I dont really feel worthy of working forms yet lol.

Another question: What kind of intent should I have when Im just standing So far, Ive been told to just listen to my body: Feel the muscle start to ache in my knees, arms etc...Should I be thinking about the direction of energy flow Should I try to concentrate on something specifically Relaxation, energy flow, breathing, etc...

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PlumDragon Herbs: Dit Da Jow and Iron Palm Liniments

"When a handshake passes the elbow, it becomes Judo."

OK, just to pop back in.

Quick aside - find it quite amusing that same bod that posts that the thread could be interesting then hijacks it with exploding qi stuff

On jawsman and intent like ball swinging on chain ... no difference with what I posted, just a different way of looking at it. The use of visualisation (e.g. arm as hollow pipe that fills up with water, space around your arm becoming thick and heavy etc.) are all legitimate and would be part of the "internal" use of Yi that I was mentioning ... in this case most of such practices are direct manifestations of "the Qi follows the Yi."

On intent when starting standing practice: keep posture correct, breathing natural, be aware of what your body is telling you. That's it.

RT

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"What can be said at all can be said clearly; and whereof one cannot speak, thereof one must be silent" - Wittgenstein, Tractatus Logico-Philosophicus

“	Originally Posted By: RobT On jawsman and intent like ball swinging on chain ... no difference with what I posted, just a different way of looking at it. The use of visualisation (e.g. arm as hollow pipe that fills up with water, space around your arm becoming thick and heavy etc.) are all legitimate and would be part of the "internal" use of Yi that I was mentioning ... in this case most of such practices are direct manifestations of "the Qi follows the Yi." RT	”

Exactly.

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It's all about the nitty gritty.......

Ive been doing my standing now, for a little over a week, most every morning before I leave for work, and before I go to bed. I hold the stance anywhere from 2-5 minutes on each side depending on how I feel that day.

Just recently, Ive noticed something. I dont know if Im just fooling myself or not, but when I breathe out I can feel a very slight tingling/warmth in my hands, its only when I breathe out, and that is when I form the "intent" of the direction of energy, running down my legs and up my arms and into my hands.

Perhaps Im tricking myself and having wishful thinking...At any rate, I thought Id let everyone know, and shout out a thanks for the replies in hopes that Im not delusional =)

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PlumDragon Herbs: Dit Da Jow and Iron Palm Liniments

"When a handshake passes the elbow, it becomes Judo."

“	Originally Posted By: Five Element Fist First thanks for the great info already; I see the internal arts as one family in regards to development. With intent we have a specific goal that is accomplished which can be anything. Many things happen to get to that goal so to be steps ahead of the current action creates achieving the goal that we have in the beginning and allows the goal to be achieved by the physical senses as well. It is a circle of activity. Intent brings good fortune or disaster so be most careful in the beginning (and end) and make sure the intent is pure and not based on temporary things because all things are in a state of change most obvious with a resisting opponent. Those changes can be accepted and the goal is achieved after acceptance of the current situation then we may discover how those changes can be used for victory. Same with health accept what is and change along with everything else in nature using the reversal but also know the unchanging or the glue that holds matter together. Sorry to ramble but an awesome thread, intent	”

WHAT THE....

can people stop eating the stuff they leave behind in the toilet bowl!!!!!

Please!!!!!


Flush your brain...or flush yourself along with it.

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May the force be with y'all.

Allan Tsang, the very essence of Christian Compassion and gentile diplomacy

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"When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night he checks his closet for Cam McHargue"

OH, am I an ambassodor now When did that happen.

Well, when people act like trolls and talk nonsense and I ask them to explain themselves and they keep spouting crap like that - it makes the muddy water muddier.

Well, in the other hand check out how the Parasees were addressed by Paul and Jesus. Children of the devil, hmm I think me was too lenient...

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May the force be with y'all.

Don't forget "brood of vipers" and "sons of perdition."

"Christian" does not mean "One who sits quietly while fools run amok."

And besides, what does Allan's faith have to do with anything When a Christian is quiet and kindly and giving, nobody ever says a word or takes public notice, but as soon as a Christian speaks out AGAINST anything, or stands up and shows some spine, their faith is used as a justification for hostility and ridicule.

I almost got banned here once for typing "OM," and I wasn't even making a comment on any topic or religion. I find it odd that Allen can be mocked using his religion, and it's somehow all good.

“	Originally Posted By: Allan_Tsang WHAT THE.... can people stop eating the stuff they leave behind in the toilet bowl!!!!! Please!!!!! Flush your brain...or flush yourself along with it.	”

Tell it like it is bro.


There is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much of this "I'm a philosopher/holy man, bask in the glow of my self-indulgent nonsense" crap around here. Maybe some form of brain damage caused by watching 300 straight hours of 'Kung-Fu' re-runs or something. I'm especially impressed when someone proclaims that they have "read a book"!! Enough with the bull**** already!

I just finished doing san ti prior to coming in and reading this new off-topic drivel...I was feeling quite peaceful, but this bickering hasnt helped =(

Anyway, to report new findings (I suppose this is becoming a journal of sorts for me...on my path to internal development). Tonight after finishing, I felt a slight ringing in my ears, added to the previous observations. Only change I made was to lightly clinch my teeth, per the advice of a xing yi friend of mine on Empty Flower. Anyone else ever get ringing like that One other thing I notice, when I try to reach out and feel the tingling and heat in my hands, it seems to be less prevalent...When I let go and forget about it, it seems to be more noticeable...Is this *TRULY* the way it is, or am I falling into the psychological mix of "You must give yourself up to feel it" Intent would seem to logically follow that *thinking* about the feeling I am getting would only increase it...Not the case it seems

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PlumDragon Herbs: Dit Da Jow and Iron Palm Liniments

"When a handshake passes the elbow, it becomes Judo."

Allan, I was just celebrating your "special" way of relating to people .

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"When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night he checks his closet for Cam McHargue"

so trolls are people now

It was obvious he was like dumping a crapload of patronizing nonsense.


after watching LOTR, I thought they were something else.

SM, I've always been like that. Want me change

I relate like that - keeps long term relationships going strong.

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May the force be with y'all.

“	Originally Posted By: PlumDragon I felt a slight ringing in my ears, added to the previous observations. Anyone else ever get ringing like that One other thing I notice, when I try to reach out and feel the tingling and heat in my hands, it seems to be less prevalent...When I let go and forget about it, it seems to be more noticeable...Is this *TRULY* the way it is, or am I falling into the psychological mix of "You must give yourself up to feel it" Intent would seem to logically follow that *thinking* about the feeling I am getting would only increase it...Not the case it seems	”

Tingling of the hands, ringing of the ears.... good signs of hard work. For me, I didn't feel those things until a little further in my training. But everyone responds differently. Keep it up PD.



Allan, do what you do man. I don't think Stormy meant anything by his comment, IMO.

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It's all about the nitty gritty.......

Nah, I don't want you to change, just finding you semihumorous.

If I thought you were being a total jerk with no provocation, I would have said so.

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This will be the 2nd old thread Ive woken up this week! =)

Ive moved onward in my training and have learned the first element, metal (what is the name of this fist) as well as the first 2 pagua palms. I thoroughly enjoy running through the metal form, and have come back to ask:

Now that I know what kind of intent to focus on while standing (which I still try to do for atleast 10+ minutes a day), what should my intent be on while Im performing the form Do I still need to worry about thinking of the energy flowing into my arms and hands while Im performing the strike I still find it kind of difficult to think about that at the same time Im trying to properly perform the motion.

Also, how relaxed should I be when I punch or palm strike, etc It seems that the motions are quite explosive and I feel that at the finish it would be appropriate to have a bit of tension in my arm, but my knowledge of internals tells me that is not the case Should my arm be totally relaxed all the way through the strike

Thanks in advance

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PlumDragon Herbs: Dit Da Jow and Iron Palm Liniments

"When a handshake passes the elbow, it becomes Judo."