Yi Quan

Hi,


It's hard for me to imagine I chuan training "appealing to the masses". After all, how many people want to stand for an hour at a time or pay incredibly in depth attention to each movement while almost completely ignoring "pretty forms"

As for Wang Xiang Zhai, who knows I never met him or Guo Yun Shen or any of those folks so it's tough to say what they were like, how skilled they were or weren't. It is pretty widely accepted that Mr. Wang had an open invitation for any martial artists to come and "play" with him in a respectful environment. That doesn't sound to me like the actions of someone who didn't know how to fight.

I'm asking this in an honest curiousity; what "external" movements and philosophies did Wang Xiang Zhai add to the Hsing I that he learned Also, I'm sure this is BTDT, but what's the difference between "internal" and "external" in your opinion

Regards,
Josh

“	Originally Posted By: li xiao long Some dude called wang xiang eggfriedrice [sorry i dont do yi quan so i dont remember the names],	”

I know you're not being a bloody ****ing dam racial brit so

suffice to say a guy name Wang or Wang Sheng Chai (or variant)

So whenever I can't remember a British guys name I can say a bloody Opium pushing, slave selling, land conquering, princess worshipping incestuous idiots [Sorry, not very good with history so if I'm misssing a couple of other attributes, let me know.]

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“	Originally Posted By: li xiao long yi quan was not created as early as guo yun shen i dont think. Some dude called wang xiang eggfriedrice [sorry i dont do yi quan so i dont remember the names], back around 1860. Im sure Guo was a good 100-200 years prior to this time	”

Wang Xiangzhai was a student of Guo Yunshen. And he developed Yiquan in the 1920's. Guo Yunshen died circa 1905-1907

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Aja

“	Originally Posted By: li xiao long eggfriedrice	”

“	Originally Posted By: Allan_Tsang I know you're not being a bloody ****ing dam racial brit so	”

Interestingly the French refer to the british in slang "roast beefs" (les rosbifs) . Lets compile all the food based national/racial slurs...

“	Originally Posted By: Medains Lets compile all the food based national/racial slurs...	”

let's not do that in this thread...
this is about Yi Quan, let's stay on topic

all nice and polite...

Chief108

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all hail Martyr Fakka

Apologies, that was meant to be a sarcastic suggestion. I should have added many silly smileys.

Back on topic though : Does anyone have any references for the Yi-chuan training exercise where you exhibit jings from various different parts of your body (like through your back etc..)

“	Originally Posted By: Medains Apologies, that was meant to be a sarcastic suggestion.	”

no harm done

“	Originally Posted By: Medains I should have added many silly smileys.	”

LOL!
that usually works for me

you got no idea with how much you can get away with as long as you bring it with a smile

Chief108

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“	Question Authority. Question Society. Question Reality. Question Yourself. Question your conclusions, your judgments, your answers. Question this. If you question everything thoroughly enough, the truth will eventually hit you upside the head and you will know. But here’s a warning: It won’t be what you imagined. It won’t be even close.	”

all hail Martyr Fakka

hey XVampireX,

Check this page for some info

http://www.yiquan.org.uk/art-zz.html

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Hey - XVampireX.

Try the book DACHENGCHUAN by Wang Xuang-Jai. (student of Wang, Xhiang Zhai). It's a very fascinating and contriversial book. It Really speaks badly about practicing so many martial arts forms and promotes returning to the simple process of building your "instinctual" fighting awareness thru standing meditations (and imagery).

I practice Wing Chun, Tai Chi Chuan, Xing-Yi, and Karate (Yes, karate, don't want to forget the Japanese) and I apply DACHENGCHUAN (Yi-Chuan) theories to all these styles and can see the benefit.

I Highly recommend this book. (It's one of the top 3 in my library).

Happy wanderings.