Yi Quan

Anyone knows any good websites with clips in it demonstrating stuff from Yi Quan I've recently became interested because my teacher mentioned it (Even though i knew little about yi quan).

They say its a good art, but im still going with the traditional way (Xing Yi).

So, anyone knows of some video clips with yi quan

Hi,


Tomabey.com is a great site for I chuan information. There are some video clips on there, not sure which ones are still active or not, so you'll have to search them out. There is a good clip of Wang Binkui on there doing some Hsing I and some I chuan.

I've not found any video clips anywhere of I chuan people doing any fighting stuff, just push hands, let me know if you find anything with free fighting.

Thanks,
Josh

josh prepare for pain ill be in philly this month

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Hi,


Cool! Give me a call when you are around. I'm usually working sat., sun., mon., sometimes wed. Are you meeting up with Chris and Ray

Regards,
JOsh

i gotta call them and talk to my ride to figure out the day ill be up there they are probably busy with college though

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Each church, one buddha;
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Hi,


Another good website for I chuan is www.Ichuan.net , I think that's it anyway. If that doesn't work, type "Gregory Fong martial arts" into your search engine and you should be able to find his website. No video clips, but some good pictures and excellent articles.

Regards,
Josh

A serious question to those who know:
I've heard all about the Yi Quan masters fights, and i know that Yi Quan is an offshoot of Xing Yi Quan, so i was thinking to myself about getting some books on yi quan, and integrate the Yi Quan training (mostly power generation) into my Xing Yi Quan curriculum, and since both arts are related to each other, i think it would be a very good mix! So for example the Zhan Zhuang yi quan is so known for (yeah, xing yi is too!) and shili, pushing hands (which we dont really do in xing yi) which is a good sensitivity training, and overall everything that xing yi quan doesnt already have.

So the question is: Will i be able to train in Xing Yi Quan from the sifu, and in the same time, buy a book or some videos on yi quan training and get something from it Or is it still totally different from what Xing Yi is all about Please, i think this is a very good idea, for everyone!

Taken from a Tomabey post:

"Yao Chengguang started teaching yiquan (Yi Chuan)about 1980, propagating it in various parts of China. He conducted many fights, proving his skill. In 1982 he took part in one of the first of san da tournaments. But after the first fight, when he knocked his opponent out unconscious in first round, he was forbidden participating in san da tournaments, because his explosive power was too dangerous. Later he had been teaching in Hong Kong and Japan, in all places conducting many victorious fights."
http://yiquan.chinamartialarts.net/Yao%20chengguang.htm

Sorry, but this is all I know about this polemic topic. Maybe YiChuan in octagon (Pride, Ultimate Fighting and others competition this type) can be very dangerous for the two sides: the Yi Chuan guy lose because the rules and limited blows and the other guy also lose because the Fa Jing ;-D
Who know

Hey Vampire...
mate you should post this question at www.emptyflower.com there are couple of good Yi quan guys...
it is one of best site on Hsing I Chuan too..
I luve the kind of stuff they provide...
heres the link to forum
http://www.emptyflower.com/cgi-bin/y...B.cgi/YaBB.cgi
-TkdWarrior-

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Hi,


VampireX, I hate to say it, but I don't think that I chuan or Hsing I are the types of things that can really be learned well from Books or videos without the assistance of a competent instructor to set you straight when you are off track.

I've only been doing I chuan for a year and doing bagua for five (Hsing I the last three years), so I'm far from being able to speak eloquently about the finer points of I chuan or any other IMA practice. That being said,I think that there's too much that can go wrong from incorrect practice methods and misinterperetation. It seems like being off, even a little can at best keep your practice from progressing in a productive way and at worst cause injury to your joints. That's for me, though. Maybe things are different for you.

In the end, it's your decision. My opinion is that everyone teaches Hsing I differently, everyone teaches I chuan differently. The odds of finding correspondence courses or books that will be completely compatible with the practices that your teacher teaches lessen when put in that light. Perhaps training a certain skill in your Hsing I is very important, what if an I chuan book, excersise or correspondence course tells you to do something differently.

Take elbows for example. The way I was taught Hsing I, there is a very strong focus on having "heavy" elbows, always dropping. The way I was taught the basic "holding the ball" ichuan posture is different. Heavy elbows have not been emphasised to me at this point in time, but rather on stretching the elbows out in opposite directions from each other. That's just elbows and it makes a huge difference in training methods. My point is that the small things may not be compatible with the way that you are learning. It's tough to reconcile "heavy elbows" with elbows pulling out to the sides and that's just one point of practice.

Emptyflower is a good place to post this question, as someone pointed out. There are some good I chuan and Hsing I people on there that are far more experienced than me who might have more useful things to say about it.

Anyway, whatever you decide to do, best of luck!

Regards,
Josh

Yeah, i understand... They said that i shouldnt train in Yi Quan before a couple of years in Xing Yi. And it kind of sucks... :'(
But i will do that, that is... I wont train in Yi Quan before i have all the basics in Xing Yi!

ya I saw ur post there...
they r nice bunch of guys ,I agree with their advice.
U know about couple of yrs ago I took their advice of doing San ti shi for 6 months... I got bored but the effect was good...lol

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after giving address tto that site, I went there y'day... after 10 months gap... may be 12 months... that place didn't change much , same guy, same attitude.. they still talk in same coded IMA language which still goes over my head... and then John Wang comes along n bash everyone's tai ji, gives couple of videos

-TkdWarrior-

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Fear John Wang, Are You Scare Yet, Long Live Chairman Mao, Ima Is For Health Only

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Each man, one way;
Each horse, one stance;
Each church, one buddha;
Each master to his own technique. (ha nevilleb i saw drunkmaster too)

I think yi quan is a style created by a reject from Guo's camp. I forget them name of the guy but he was in fact a student of the great Guo Yun Shen as was sun liu tang sun was with Guo before this dude which is of no other consequence then the fact that this guy wasnt able to achieve what he wanted through tradition (make money) so he devised a more desireable method to appeal to the masses. unfortunatly for those who practice this method are defeating the purpose of Guo's style of training and the internal all together by mixing external movements and philosophies.Sun never taught anyone to change anything from the standard until they mastered the "old ways" this way the internal is always there in a manner of speaking. the change is not at all beneficial to an internal stylist.

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After your movements are very correct, then the teacher can discuss why they are the way they are. First achieve precision in movement.

yi quan was not created as early as guo yun shen i dont think.

Some dude called wang xiang eggfriedrice [sorry i dont do yi quan so i dont remember the names], back around 1860. Im sure Guo was a good 100-200 years prior to this time

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