Fah jing: Understand to learn??

I am practicing Hebei kung fu but I find that I am unable to grasp what fah jing is and actually this whole talk of energy and how to issue it.

So I wonder... will simply practicing the various forms make me able to cultivate and issue power Or do I have to understand it in an intellectual way

To make an analogy: Will it enter the body automatically from practice in the same way as learning to bicycle Or does it have to be grasped intellectually like mathematics

Your thinking way too hard over it.

Fah jing literally means "explosive power". It doesnt say how, or when or who or what or why. Just the act of releasing that power - nothing more.

If you wish to start using that power in some method for your xing yi, then I can only suggest you practice practice practice. Dont think about trying to destroy your opponent, it'll come with time.

And for reference, the feeling of jing, is not just taking a blow and going "ouch", its taking the blow and going "holy **** that really hurt! why are my nuts on the other side of the room for! someone call an ambulance, i think im going to die!"

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Try to be a whip and whip the power out... using the whole body or explosive movement let the empty side begin with loose and relaxed connectedness like a wave going through your body and balance your full side with the attack so soft like cotton to hard like steel at the end release and continue the cycle.Good luck trust body feeling before mind.

“	Originally Posted By: Mind Over Matter To make an analogy: Will it enter the body automatically from practice in the same way as learning to bicycle Or does it have to be grasped intellectually like mathematics	”

The same as riding a bike. Think with your body, not your mind.

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LoL Li... u gave darn good explanation of Fa Jin...

Fa Jin is more of pure body mechanics... if you hav heard that you summon the energy from earth thru your legs controlled by waist etc etc.... it's all about body mechanics...

It's hard to describe in words, but it can be felt in live... and No I don't think form practicing can improve Fa Jin.

I learnt abotu Fa jin when I wasn't even doing Tai Chi... and funny thing is my Taekwon-do Teacher taught me... go figure

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It's a good question... do you need to understand to learn, well yes and no

Do you need to understand someones words no
do you need to understand yourself yes

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The body mechanics is a setup, which helps to "envelope" the power in something correct. The process of fajinging itself is NOT mechanical. It's in the sense mechanical that mechanical energy is produced when muscle fibres contract, but the thing itself is electro-chemical.

Same way, when you feel you fajing, it comes with a strong growing tingling, starting often only in the limb that is used, but if full-blown comes from the chest and combines all the torso and guts muscles in a strong, sometimes wicked, often slower spasm. It feels irresistible, pulling or pushing without a lot of resistance from the other guy muscling against it. It felt like tearing me myself, my ribcage was hurting when I used it first in a pull. And like LXL explained, I did not do it consciously, I felt like a reflex grabbing the guy and then it happened, also from a reflex.

The process of "learning" to do that is two-fold. First, you have the get the resources, which is the known boring slow-moving, standing, headstand, and sometimes a little pressure work (moving stuff that puts pressure on the limbs or joints). Second, you need to work on the flexion of the inner mind to get to use it. This is achieved through getting the body into defensive mode, when it has to use the stuff to protect itself, the bones, tissue, etc., because naturally the body uses jing to protect. Always, unless you are denaturalized. Someone punching you with jing lets the body respond itself using jing to protect. This is the nature kind of process. A simple "full body movement" hey wow is NOT jing. It's a part of delivery, necessary to be both hammer and anvil (otherwise you would hurt yourself). The elaborate way of learning is to fall into wuji state, a semiconscious mind state where the inner takes over and does all it can do while you're "just letting happen", like gymnastics. When you feel the tingling in those movements, the inner mind started to add jing to movements to execute its intention.

Like LXL mentioned, when someone hits you full force with jing, it's like a hammer, not only a "hard punch". If you do it yourself, even not so powerful, you will notice a distinct tingling, which is the only true indicator of using jing. The movement might feel weightless, hard, or extremely heavy.

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Thank you all for your answers.

The bottom line to your response seems to be that I should pay attention to my body feeling and reflexes and understand it that way rather than expect to figure it out intellectually.

So I'll stick with that: Practice a lot while keeping alert to sudden reflexes and besides check out the specific aproaches to learning you have specified.

Hopefully then it'll come. Dilligence must pay off... anything else would be unfair.

PS: A whole forum just for xingyi That's awesome cool!

It's a lot like playing basketball. In the beginning, you just train how to dribble, or throw from fixed positions. Once you learned the crude way good enough, you train to throw from a feint, or a full move, and develop a feeling for good and bad shots. You get a feeling telling you that you will hit that ball even before it's at the rim, you know it by the time you let the ball go. You stop thinking, and act like when washing a car, you just do it and don't think much. It's developing a certain flow, instincts, when to go where and how to pass or shoot the ball. The same happens when the body develops a feeling for it's strnegthes, and moving. It's like noone told you how to walk, you just do it. The body also has a deep internal feeling on what he can do. A body that doesn't have the resources to fajing naturally can't and won't do it. But as soon as it has that, it starts to elaborate on it on its own. Once it did it two or three times spontaneously, it starts to develop the skill more naturally.

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any style of martial arts will teach their method of power emmision or fa-jing.

The jing/ging is most ffective if there is a structure behind it. Form will teach your that.Each element will teach your the proper structure for the diff. jing/gings associated with it. It also has to do with force vectors.

you can do the form wrong all your lif and never get it to it's fullest potential.
you can be taught correctly and if you never practice, you will never know it.

Doing what you're told and doing it correctly and over time - you will have it.

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