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Old July 28th, 2007, 11:52 AM
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Kyokushinkai karate.

Hey. Does anyone here do this.

OSU!

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Old July 28th, 2007, 07:26 PM
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Do you? Maybe you could tell everyone something about it. Get the ball rolling, as they say...
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Old July 28th, 2007, 11:01 PM
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My karate style is very similar, as Mas Oyama was a stundent of Funakoshi, though I have never studied kyokushinkai.
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Old July 28th, 2007, 11:40 PM
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Well ok.


To me, there is not much better than kyokushinkai karate second only to religion.
This is a full contact art with the exception of face hits with the arm. It was created by a man named Masutatsu Oyama(Mas Oyama) who done so many great things. He not only killed a man in self defense but was also able to kill a bull with his bare hands and defeat many others by wresling them down and cutting off thier horns with shuto. I can tell you more about him but he did so much. You need to look him up for I can not post all of it.
Anyway Kyokushin translates into the ultimate truth because he believed that this style is karate at it fullest. I believe that but I'm not trying to perswade anyone else.
Kyokushin was based off of the styles shotokan and goju ryu, hints the simular kata and kihon.
I recomend typing kyokushin in google to find out more.

My exeperiances in this art are unfoutunately very limeted.
I can get no MA school but I know one day when I move I will be able to.
Because of this, I do all I can to practice with dvds and books about kyokushin in my shed outside. I know this is nothing close to the real experiances I will gain when I go to a dojo but as I said, it's all I can do.
I would also like to tell you how I learned about kyokushin.

About 5 years ago I decided I would like to take martial art classes. My parents took me to check out a local taikwondo dojo. I was going to go there but the month I was going to join I had to move away 30 miles to where nobody did anything close to martial arts.
My parents told me that they could not take me back and forth so I was going to have to teach myself. I knew I could not completely teach myself but all I could do is condition myself for win I could get a class.
I bought a punching bag and hanged it on a tree. I started punching and kicking it for first 30 minute then I moved it up to 45 then to 1 hour then 3 and finaly to five.
I always wanted to go to Japan and I liked the Idea of striking better than graphling or swords so I decided that karate was the thing for me.
Later on, I was in a book-store looking for books about karate.
I found a book called karate school by Mas Oyama. At the time I knew nothing about kyokushin or shotokan or goju ryu ect. I thought it was just karate. This book said nothing about kyokushin so it strengthened my idea of one karate.
After that, I ordered a book off the internet which was called the best karate by M Nakayama. This confussed me most of all.
It told me about shotokan. Shotokan has simular kihon and kata to kyokushin so at the time I though both books I had were shotokan.
The thing I did not like about this new book is that it said opponents don't strike each other but hault attacks before touching the gi. I have allways believed in full contact. So I decided to find a shotokan that was full contact. After hours of research I found no such thing.
The only thing I found was an art that I have never heard of. It was called kyokushin.
So I went out on a wim and decided to search the author of my first book.
I found out that not only did he do all these amazing things but he also created my new style. KYOKUSHINKAI KARATE.
After what I descoved, I was glad to have picked up just by chance the book that was the decideding factor of wether I was going to choose shotokan or kyokushin.

After relising how great an art this is, I was not as mad about not geting the TKD class for if I did I would not have found this art.

Now I train in my backyard dojo with 2 dvds which add up to about five hours
and I bag train aswell. I know that I need corrections and that I cant get them but I do believe I'm doing the best with what I have.


In kyokushin and probably other martial arts aswell, there's a word we say at the end of class which is mostly interpreted as a word of respect to fellow martial artists. The word is:

OSU!!!
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Old July 28th, 2007, 11:55 PM
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Your excitement is great. I too own a copy of Karate School and I think it is a wonderful book. You can learn a lot from books and videos. While I do understand and can fully relate to your inability to get to a school, let me just say that if you get a chance, regardless of the style, you should seek out instruction from a living breathing instructor whenever possible. It can only help you out in your journey. Mas Oyama studied many arts and took the things that he like most from each to make his art.
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Old July 28th, 2007, 11:57 PM
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I agree. thanks for the advice.

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For now, you should check out Nakayama's Dynamic Karate for highly detailed explainations on execution of basic techniques.
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Old July 29th, 2007, 12:01 PM
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Yeah that will be good. As for now I use a dvd called the kyokushin encyclopedia for instruction. It seems to talk 10 minute on each move.
It only gives kihon practice five times slow and 10 times fast but for the work out I use that and another dvd called simply karate which does not talk much but trains kihon 10 times slow and 30 times fast which is not enough but if I combine them It's still small but more balenced.
I'm going to start atleast 30 minutes bag training today which will help as well.
thanks for the advice I'll look into it.

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He not only killed a man in self defense but was also able to kill a bull with his bare hands and defeat many others by wresling them down and cutting off thier horns with shuto.

Call me old, but I dont see any greatness in a person killing another 'in self defense'. It shows a lack of restraint. A great person wouldn't be fighting or indeed using just enough skill to fend off the aggressor without significant injury or death.

Does anyone else wonder what the bull had done to deserve what must've been a slow and painful death? If I killed an animal or human today, would I be reveered as great? No, i'd be thought of as a despicable murderer or inhuman.
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Old December 1st, 2007, 03:27 PM
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Great point li xiao long. OSU!

Please don't think of Sosai Masutatsu Oyama as being great only for these things. I said these things to demostrate the skill of him but he was also a great philosopher for all martial arts. Don't think ill of him just for what I told you about.
I thank you for pointing this out. OSU!
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Havent we had a few discussions on the term

"Osu"

Isnt it just bad slang and relatively disrespectfull.
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Call me old, but I dont see any greatness in a person killing another 'in self defense'. It shows a lack of restraint. A great person wouldn't be fighting or indeed using just enough skill to fend off the aggressor without significant injury or death.

I agree 100%. And I especially do not think someone should resort to escalating the force when they are the ones who instigated the fight. Not saying that is what happened in the case of Mr. Oyama but there are some threads here with people bragging about instigating fights and then escalating force to the point of maiming the other person.
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Old December 2nd, 2007, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted By: GuiLongUmar View Post
Havent we had a few discussions on the term

"Osu"

Isnt it just bad slang and relatively disrespectfull.

Yes. but I ment the complete opposite. in a lot of karate dojos, this word is used for respect, which is the main reason why I used it. I believe the kanji used to spell it are the characters for push and preserve which is believed to be why it is in use in some dojos. But if there is a problem with the word here than I won't use it.
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the Team Hardcore dojo where I train is also the IBK International Kyokushin Budokai Kan founder Jon Bluming info Kyokushin and more - Home honbu
I train some kyokushin there accasionally as well
just because it's fun and really hard and intense

and over here every kyokushin kai dude will post OSU!!! at least once in every single post

I even made an OSU!! smilie at mixfight.nl for that
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Wow! I was whishing I was you right now. I train in my shed outside which I nicknamed my " Shed-dojo"

I'm sorry though. It sounded like you said the Honbu says osu. But then it seemed like you said only over here they say that.
I'm probably just reading it wrong, but could you explane just a little bit more.
Thanks. OSU! (respectfully though)
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