Kung Fu vs. Karate

“	Originally Posted By: mok Then why call yourself that? I applaud your honestly, and admitedly, there's no proof anyone who claims to have titles or skills on the 'net can back it up... until you touch hands with them, that is... But here you are, clearly a beginner, so what's the idea behind naming yourself with that title, if it isn't yours?	”

It's not a big deal really i just thought it sounds nice. hehe what you want me to say that i have some big dream to become a Martial Arts teacher or something?

I agree that its not a big deal. However, if someone from Japan turned up under the name Teacher Dave, it would at least be worth finding out why, if he were niether a teacher nor named Dave, he chose that name, just out of curiosity if nothing else.

Anyway, as has been noted, its not a bid deal.

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Wolfgang says:

I could think of a million better things to do in Japan for a month besides jumping off of picnic tables. - x893

Karate and Kung Fu are so widely varied its not even funny. There is a HUGE difference between Okinawan Karate and Japanese Karate. Karate Originated in Okinawa, It went to mainly Japan only in the very early 20th century (if I remember right pre-world war 1 maybe it was between warld war 1 and 2) any way. Karate Originally didn't mean Empty hand it meant China Hand it was Changed to Empty when It went to Japan. If you pay attention you can still see the differences in Kata and application (though very subtle). "Shaolin Kung Fu" have thousands of Variants that lay claim to being apart of or having roots in shaolin. Choy Lee Fut is a very Dynamic style that has roots in Shaolin (though is not Shaolin) Crane, Mantis, Tiger, etc. All very different from the other all shaolin. There is also Long Fist styles, Wing Chung, Northern Shaolin which looks nothing like southern. What are you looking for exactly? Dynamic? Linear Striking? Open Hand Strikes? Okinawa Kempo Karate is a very good style (Was the style I studied) the Head sensei of the entire style is a bit like a drill sergeant but a good guy. What is near you? I still Dream about learning Long Yong but there nearest style is a state way in Florida. Where Do you live? Whats in are the styles in a reasonable (your deffinition of reasonable) distance? If your trying to find something thats like a Karate style go for the Karate style if you Just where throwing something out whats near you and what are you looking for.

Have you looked into Kyokushin Karate?

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“	Originally Posted By: KungFuMan I also learned a praying mantis fist style from watching the actual insect itself. This was before I actually learned some seven star mantis.	”

“	Originally Posted By: CLF Devil Have you looked into Kyokushin Karate?	”

Winning answer

well yeah we all have a silly names on here

with exception of a few people

clfsean : "
It resembles Long Ying kinda & also kinda Fukien Tiger. I don't see so much White Crane in it, although it looks to be there too. I dunno exactly."

yeah i agree had a look at some footage last night

definatley harder thyan the white crane i have encountered

even though its supposed tio come from a style called hard-soft

but appears to have that characteristic small frame thing going on

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grapple - looks like an apple tastes like a grape

green_horn : "There is also Long Fist styles, Wing Chung, Northern Shaolin which looks nothing like southern."

had to call you on this

wing chun is not a long fist style

and is most definitly a southern thing

very much akin to fukien white crane in my opinion

other than that a good post

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grapple - looks like an apple tastes like a grape

“	Originally Posted By: Pope_Wingnut yeah i agree had a look at some footage last night definatley harder thyan the white crane i have encountered even though its supposed tio come from a style called hard-soft but appears to have that characteristic small frame thing going on	”

Definately.

I don't know about the "hard soft" thing. I just don't know that much about its roots, but from outward appearances, I'm seeing certain things not others.

Maybe the White Crane is the Ngo Cho Kuen crane side, but nothing I'm familiar with with Fukien.

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I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand. -- Kung Fu-tzu (Confucius)

I was looking into some things you guys said..by the way you guys are very helpful..but there is one thing i've heard no t on this site but another about Wing Lam Kung Fu?? Whats that?

“	Originally Posted By: Pope_Wingnut green_horn : "There is also Long Fist styles, Wing Chung, Northern Shaolin which looks nothing like southern." had to call you on this wing chun is not a long fist style and is most definitly a southern thing very much akin to fukien white crane in my opinion other than that a good post	”

I wasn't calling wing chun a long fist style. Just listing different style. Sorry about the confusion. And thank you for pointing that out. If you thought that someone else might have to....Good catch.

“	Originally Posted By: Unkotare Another question might be why to call himself Kenichi if that is not his name?	”

Ok, forgive my ignorance, but what does Kenichi mean?

-aaradia

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Just a male name.

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Wolfgang says:

I could think of a million better things to do in Japan for a month besides jumping off of picnic tables. - x893

i think that wing lam kung fu relates to the teachings of

sifu kwong wing lam

dont know for sure what is ciriculum is

as he has studied so many different style in his time

but i think its primarily hung gar with a northen element

maybe tai chi is taught as well

Wing Lam Kung Fu Federation

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grapple - looks like an apple tastes like a grape

“	Originally Posted By: aaradia Ok, forgive my ignorance, but what does Kenichi mean? -aaradia	”

Iron Chef Chinese... that's what!!!

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pffffft....

It's Iron-chef Morimoto all the way, for me, baby!

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Kwong Wing Lam is well-known San Francisco Hung Gar sifu, has a number of great instructional videos, as well as runs a large online business.

Lam sifu teaches Hung Gar as his main style, but also northern shao lin (bak siu lum), tai chi + some songshan shaolin as well (i.e. the same stuff as the monks).

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As for the links between fukkien shorthand systems and Goju-ryu they are unmistakable and well-documented.... However karate diverged and evolved considerably so that most karate today looks nothing like the fukkien arts, except perhaps for the sanchin-kata base. Goju is perhaps the one exception in that it has kept the small-frame, shorthand structure that other karate has dropped in favor of a more standard bow-stance base.

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