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To Shin Do vs Bujenkan Dojo

Does anyone know why the split between Hayes & Hatsumi? Why did Hayes feel the need to break away from the Bujenkan Association and start this ToShinDo (TSD) system? Seems illogical to me. Is TSD doing good? Is Hayes doing better than he was when he was affiliated with the Bujenkan? Whats everybody's opinion on this? I know TSD has been around a while now and this has probably been talked about in the past but I was to lazy to look in the archives for this topic.
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I take it know one is really to fond of Ninjutsu. Be careful what you say. A ninja might sneak into your house and poison you with a poisoned blow gun dart while you sleep tonight.....lol.
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Na, I married a Bujinkan girl, now she trains in my system and realizes how much they suck and how crappy they train and how fan boy deluded they are
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Did you really marrie someone from the Bujinkan? or is that a joke?
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Did you really marrie someone from the Bujinkan? or is that a joke?

Sorry, just noticed this

yeah, she started in the booj but left as soon as we started training together and she saw how poor Bujinkan training and ideas were, she saw how poorly it was instructed and taught by the senior masters of the system and how crappy it was in real life application, so she left them for mine.
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We have a Bujenkan Dojo here in my town and it is pretty crappy. I checked them out one time and it looked like a bunch of young adults running around in ninja suites acting stupid. They were outside thier school climbing the side of the building using the down spouts that the rain goes in.
They looked pretty silly.
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I want to be a ninja and be able to blend into the shadows.

Does The Shadows of Iga Society still exist?

Does Steven K. Hays & Dr. Massaki Hatsumi still have a friendly relationship since his break from the Bujinkan?
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Have no clue, if you've noticed, there aren't a lot of BBT people here, should ask at a forum that is swarming with silly dudes dressed in pajamas and playing out their childhood wet dreams of Ninjaism
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Check the Kutaki no Mura forums. They're all Booj all the time.
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Ah c'mon guys...each to their own...

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Not really in this case, when a large growing proportion of Bujinkan and ex Bujinkan keep telling about the poor level of training and cultish practices, there is obviously something wrong with the style.

Here's some interesting info.

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Hilarious! I like that you get the best of both douchey worlds there: craptastic slug fests by out of shape, trashy hoodlums on t3h str33t, and of course, Bujinkan wankerism at its finest. That is actualy the first I've seen of it outside of the practice I watched a friend do when we were in junior high. He and his class were practicing "Guerilla Tactics' in the backyard of their Sensei's house: crawling on their bellies in black PJs and tabi boots. I have to admit, even at 13 years old, it looked pretty dorktacular to me...

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