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Old January 17th, 2008, 07:59 AM
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atemi points

had a very brief introduction to this last night

by buddha they're fu<<!ng painful when hit



does anybody here train them?

they're quite tricky to find on some people

as every body tends to be ennerviated slightly differently

but there's no mistake when you get it

also was told you cant do it to yourself

how weird is that?
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atemi points, Japanese term huh?

It should be common practice in your CMA. Particlarly chin na skills.

But many arts have a good deal of specific applications designed to be vital, pain compliance or pressure points.
Some points are all of the above, some are just one ie. just pain compliance but neither vital nor pressure point(qi meridian or Plexus)
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i never came across it in the wing chun i did

although i have been aware of the concept

dim mak in chinese?

last night was my first real experience with them

do you train/teach them GLU?
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Old January 17th, 2008, 08:20 AM
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oh i should have mentioned its in the JMA section

because i was at a jiujutsu class

so i gues its a japanese term
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oh Um, yeah...

Yes, just about Everytime we bridge.
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The body is not dependant on Chinese or Japanese terms..or even English
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agreed

do you put much emphsis on striking or utilising these points?
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I have spent many years working on those.... much emphsis? very much
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I've read that the chinese doctors of old were the first to really use/ study this type of thing. Its funny, because the place that I learned the most about these points was not in MA classes, but in massage therapy school. These spots were taught to us as places we should only use very little pressure at or even avoid completely. Out of curiosity I compared some of the points that we were to be wary of to accupruncture points and just about all of the points coincided. I think that all martial arts use these points whether they are taught with names such as lv 296734 or not.
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Again most any martial art with any depth incorporates these skills into the curriculum and training.

Strike, press, grind, stab, Divide. It really depends on the desire result/reaction.
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Each body is the same all built the same way. The yin yang of it is healing or hurting through the same point. In Chin-Na Ju jitsu Dim Mak or the blade arts many of the targets are the same.
The same is almost true for each system, nerves blood, muscle, bone organs etc...
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I totally agree. A kick is a kick. A punch is a punch.
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Indeed, training these aspects are a boon to any martial artist, whether for healing or for martial application.
You may not always use them or get the chance, but when you do, take it.

A good thread about this is here, it's about the healing aspects and points but can be easily adapted to a martial application and pain compliance, there are also some charts for point location.
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