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February 2nd, 2008, 05:04 PM
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Can anyone point me in the right direction or provide some information on factual history to help me refute what this wannabe weenie has posted here http://china.konigunninjutsu.com/id13.html ? Any help would be much appreciated. |
February 2nd, 2008, 09:27 PM
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Rep Power: 150 | | While on the one hand I can categorically state that trying to out wannabe weenies is a fool's errand (they're slippery and wiggle out of logic traps), I can give you something of a fact.
The southern Shaolin Temple has not yet been proven to have ever existed.
No matter what anyone says, there is no physical evidence, no written record, not even reliable hearsay. There's a whole lot of "mights" and "maybes" but nothing concrete.
The current "rebuilding of the southern Shaolin Temple" is an effort by the PRC to bring tourists to another section of China. Appears to be working, too.
Anyway, of course everyone know ninjutsu came from Shaolin. Everything came from Shaolin. If you believe the Hong Kong movies. 
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February 3rd, 2008, 12:00 AM
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February 3rd, 2008, 12:01 AM
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February 3rd, 2008, 12:02 AM
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Mod, clean up on page one... :/
Oops.
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February 3rd, 2008, 07:19 AM
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February 3rd, 2008, 08:45 AM
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Whoa, WTF.
Mod, clean up on page one... :/
Oops. | ” | |
Actually I think the double post is quite fitting. That's pretty much what I asked after going to that website. 
But I can delete the extra post if you really want me to.
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February 3rd, 2008, 09:09 PM
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(thanks to whoever that was by the way)
Anyways... for real? Haha.
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February 4th, 2008, 04:09 AM
| | <--theguychangingmyavatar | | Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Land of Whales Style(s): Mei Hua Chuan/MMA Year(s): 21
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Woulda sworn he was the same dude who took a pic of a Japanese janitor/dishwasher and him and said it was his master.
Stupid Ninjers, what's next? nk |
February 4th, 2008, 10:03 AM
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you wouldnt even see him in that photograph
btw i have greated a new master style
shaolin ninja kempo jeet fu
i would say more
but then i would have to kill you 
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February 4th, 2008, 10:07 AM
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February 4th, 2008, 10:14 AM
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that is such a shame
if only they would teach terrorists
then prehaps they wouldnt be as effective
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February 4th, 2008, 10:51 AM
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February 4th, 2008, 12:16 PM
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the bloke's a tool
sure there are links between japanese and chinese martial arts
okinawan karate and white crane for example
but he is really streching it
it like saying
well potatos come from south america
so fish and chip should be called
south american cuisine
just bizzare
as MH would say
money grabbing LARPism
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February 4th, 2008, 04:27 PM
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"...I could feed everyone in this fake monastery for a month off this guy..."
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