I was thinking of joining a kyokushin school. So I began so research on the style. To my surprise in almost all of their tournaments and sparring punching to the head is left out? So I went to youtube and watched a few matches. Again no punching to the head. Is this style very practical? from what I've seen so far offensively the style seems OK. But defensively I'm not to confident in the style due to every fighter keeping the arms/hands stuck to their waist to defend the waist. I realize there's a difference between tournament fighting and real world application. But wouldn't all the tournaments and training for no head punching eventually sick in?
-Matt
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The lack of head punches seems to be common to many Karate/TKD styles in competition.
As for it's effectiveness? It is one of thee most effective styles around due to the intensity of their training and the level of contact they use (I have also heard that in many schools head strikes were taught and encouraged), many pro MMA fighters come from Kyukushin backgrounds, chief108 messes around some with this I believe, he should be able to shed more light on the subject.
No head punches is just their tournament/fight rules. I've sparred many Kyokushin dudes. When we put on the MMA/Boxing gloves we always include headshots. Trust me when I say this Kyokushin cats are among the hardest most dedicated fighters out there. They don't mess around when it comes to the fighting.
BTW, a good offense is the best defense.
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I also learned a praying mantis fist style from watching the actual insect itself. This was before I actually learned some seven star mantis.
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Thanks so far guys! Yes from my research I've noticed the KK guys have a reputation for being some pretty tough fighters. I was just confused why I never seen them hit to the face. The school I'm looking into say they participate only in "traditional tournaments" my guess is no silly point sparring then? Also from what I've read head punches are taught in katas and practiced through light light contact. Me being from boxing where we would do 85% -100% in nearly every sparring match find that to be a little dismal for a transition. If I'm wrong with any of this please let me know I only started to researching the style a few days ago. Also the school is an hour away fro my home and with Gas I want to make sure its worth my while even to make that first visit.
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Posted By: bobblehead
Isn't Bas Rutten from a Kyokushin background?
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most Dutch fighters have some kinda kyokushin background
search this site a little dude
I've posted quite some kyokushin stuff over the years....
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The Kyokushin rules are limited, and in a way unrealistic, but their sparring is still really intense. You have to be very tough to handle the punishment, and a bit of a masochist too. This sort of thing will at the very least, give you good fighting attributes and mental attitude, which goes a long way I think.
So what people have said is very true. They are generally always game to test themselves with other people, and are physically some of the toughest people I have met.
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Isn't Bas Rutten from a Kyokushin background?
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He says that the body mechanics he uses for generating his enormous kicking power, are still to this day the same way he learnt it in Kyokushin. The positioning, and turning/pivoting of the foot, etc.
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their sparring is still really intense. You have to be very tough to handle the punishment, and a bit of a masochist too. This sort of thing will at the very least, give you good fighting attributes and mental attitude, which goes a long way i think.
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I've got to agree with Doughboy here. When I was in Australia (My home country), I used to watch some kyokushin guys go at it. Intense. I sparred a colleague who was a Kyokushin guy once. The harder I hit him, the more he enjoyed it. Freaky.
Nice this is getting me pumped for when I start! Green Mountain Dojo Homepage here is a link to the school I'll be joining. I'd appreciate it if some of you guys an gals would take a look and give your opinions. Chief108 I'd like to hear what you think about the school seeing as you've had a lot of experience with this style. Thanks everyone.
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I sparred a colleague who was a Kyokushin guy once. The harder I hit him, the more he enjoyed it. Freaky.
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LOL...
I see that all the time indeed...
funny thing is that some of the best Kyokushin fighters in the world come from Russia
they just out-tough all other fighters
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I'm not saying it's less proficient. I've never trained in Kyokushin, only sparred with guys who train in Kyokushin. And I don't just mean train, I mean train obsessively. And all I can say after being on the receiving end is OUCH!!!! Masochistic tendencies are essential if you want to train in Kyokushin.
