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November 15th, 2008, 11:19 PM
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I was looking at the Dentokan Jujutsu website (and no I'm not advertising for them). Anyway I was looking at the video clips they have to offer, and I'd like to know, ifit's jujutsu, why do the movements lok like Aikidou, and why are they useless in application? Is this real jujutsu, or is it KFM's friend's fantasy land jujutsu, where he learned how to counter grapplers with his "deadly" moves?
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November 16th, 2008, 07:41 AM
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November 16th, 2008, 07:11 PM
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November 22nd, 2008, 04:31 AM
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Rep Power: 168 | | | Ben, remember traditional Japanese JJ is very, very different from the JJ that came from Brazil.
Traditional JJJ is a more well rounded art that specializes in no certain range and BJJ is a range specific system. The grappling/groundfighting you find in traditional JJJ is not nearly as advanced as the stuff found in BJJ.
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November 22nd, 2008, 07:20 PM
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November 24th, 2008, 06:06 PM
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Rep Power: 30 | | | Ben Grimm, they're completely different schools of Ju Jitsu.
Ju Jitsu is such an awfully misunderstood phrase. If you look at Kito Ryu Ju Jitsu it is very different to Judo's other "father" art, tenshin shinyo ryu. The easiest way to see something similar to this, is to look on youtube at Itsutsu no kata which is kind of like a reinvention of some of the Kito Ryu principles.
Fusen Ryu is what BJJ is based on, and is a completely different art to either of the two mentioned above. You then have Kano ryu ju jitsu (Judo) which is even more different! |
November 24th, 2008, 07:26 PM
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November 24th, 2008, 07:59 PM
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November 25th, 2008, 02:43 AM
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