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A teacher with vast amounts of martial arts knowledge.
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A teacher that you trust.
|    | 12 | 57.14% | |
Something else is more important.
|    | 6 | 28.57% |
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June 10th, 2005, 12:16 PM
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What is more important, having a teacher with vast martial arts knowledge or having a teacher you trust?
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June 10th, 2005, 12:24 PM
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Rep Power: 153 | | | Left with just those 2 choices, I'd rather have a teacher I trust than a Mr. Smartypants.
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June 10th, 2005, 12:27 PM
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Posted By: WraithAlcon
What is more important, having a teacher with vast martial arts knowledge or having a teacher you trust? | ” | |
Hang on; is the one you trust a complete moron? is the knowledgable one a complete @sshole? |
June 10th, 2005, 12:44 PM
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Rep Power: 24 | | | I'll second unkotare's question. If a trust a teacher who teaches me complete BS, then I'd rather be taught by an @sshole who knows what he is teaching me. On the other hand, I'd rather have a teacher who is very knowledgeable who I trust than one who is a bit more knowledgeable and I don't trust him.
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June 10th, 2005, 12:46 PM
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Posted By: Unkotare
Hang on; is the one you trust a complete moron? is the knowledgable one a complete @sshole? | ” | |
Valid question, because that would change opinions.
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June 10th, 2005, 12:52 PM
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Rep Power: 111 | | | Being an @sshole has zero to do with trust.
My pro-wrestling teacher was an ass, but he was knowledgable and I trusted him to take care of me.
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June 10th, 2005, 12:55 PM
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Rep Power: 100 | | | I think both are equally important. I wouldn't want to learn from a "trustworthy" Sifu who didn't know much of anything (what would s/he teach me?), but I also wouldn't want to learn from a Sifu with vast amounts of knowledge if s/he didn't have my best interests in mind. I think trust is a very important component in the Teacher/Student relationship, and it's difficult to learn from someone you don't trust, because you will always be holding something back.
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June 10th, 2005, 01:04 PM
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June 10th, 2005, 01:37 PM
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My teacher has the keys to my house, so which do you think I'd pick?
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June 10th, 2005, 01:39 PM
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My teacher has the keys to my house, so which do you think I'd pick? | ” | |
I guess you'd pick the lock if your teacher weren't around to let you in your house. |
June 10th, 2005, 01:52 PM
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June 10th, 2005, 10:39 PM
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June 13th, 2005, 10:16 AM
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Rep Power: 20 | | | I would want to learn from someone I could trust and who had something to teach. Maybe they dont have everything or even a huge varity but if they know what they can do and they believe in it I would willing to learn. If I didnt trust the instructor it wouldnt matter if they knew everything in the world and were willing to teach it, I wouldnt be able to/willing to learn the stuff. |
June 13th, 2005, 11:24 AM
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Rep Power: 62 | | | By vast, do you mean in overall factual knowledge of martial arts, or a vast amount of personal experience with it?
The longer I live, the less I feel a truly vast knowledge is important. I used to want to learn all the sets and do all the moves and hear al the explanations, etc. As time goes, I find myself thinking a small system like WC, or the 5 elements in xing yi is a very decent amount of material to work on and learn about for a very long time. Throwing out too many things can be detrimental to ones training.
Id prefer to have an honest-to-god teacher whos been doing nothing but a handful of sets telling me in excrutiating detail what I should do differently, than I would have an instructor who can talk forever about anything and everything martial arts but might not be honest with me. |
June 13th, 2005, 12:05 PM
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