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Old April 15th, 2004, 11:02 AM
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Just for the interested - "The fate of Wladimir K."

http://www.boxingscene.com/modules.p...ticle&sid=1079
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THat's all sorts of ****ed up
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That sucks.

At least they have proof in which case the record shouldn't show a loss and a rematch or realmatch should be scheduled post haste.
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Bizarre!
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I am a little concerned until it is made official, since they wrote the source was euphoric on having a proof, not the author. But the author justified himself as being long time in investigative journalism, and having checked credentials from several sides. If this is for real, a big boom will hit the boxing scene. With a healthy Wladimir, no way Brewster is going out of the 8th round alife. He couldn't even finish him reeling around like paralyzed.

The Nevada State Athletic Commission suspended Wladimir not only for TKO, but ordered a clearing by both a neurologist and INTERNIST. That means, they believe in something happened to his metabolism, either by way of disease, or by way of Don King.
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"or by way of Don King"
Would not surprise me at all... I hope there will be a re-match!
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Ah, now that we have our resident alchemist here, do you have an idea what you can give to someone so he has these results (including high level of blood sugars) I think it will be announced, but a little speculation doesn't hurt.

Would this be possible via blocking insulin alone There are these "insulin-like human growth hormones" that would cause low insulin, but it would have to work immediately, and to be congestable. Or would psychopharmacons like neuroleptics, or the well-known Tavor, valium, or other sedativa have similar effects to the blood sugar The inability to speak makes me suspicious, this has to be a rather strong sedativum. I know one that is given in psychiatry that gives exactly that effect, the people have problems to walk along a corridor, and they couldn't speak normally.
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Don King Promotions That alway's brings up questions in my mind. He contracts are the strangest, and he fights alway's seem controversial.

When I saw his logo by the hbo logo above the ring, I knew no good could come from the fights.

I also question the sources on the article. I cannot find other proofs or write ups on the WK drugging.
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BTW for those of you who don't have cable and want to see some exciting boxing matches, in May NBC is going to be airing Saturday afternoon fights with some key fighters. NBC fights always seem to be some of the best, when I find a schedule I will post it.

Now back to the conspiracy
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Like a helicopter following O.J.s car life on TV


Scrambled voice from a disturbed life cam:

"There! There is Don King, he's driving the brandnew Porsche Cayenne with the number 'DKru1z'... There's four police cars following him, trying to ram him... there, he throws something out of the window! ... looks like ... a plastic water bottle ... yes this is a water bottle ..."

If it wouldn't be so serious for Wlad, it could be funny. A guy build like a NBA powerforward, running totally out of gas collapsing in 10 minutes, even with breaks
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Hmm I donīt know of any specific drugs, but your idea could be very well the right one... however, W. reported an almost paralyzing effect... blood sugar dropping/sugar shock usually has different effects, although who knows Probably an adrenaline derivate.. very difficult to find in the blood.

or the wrong high-spin metals
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UPDATE:

- "someone" took the aquisition of a Steward assistent at the checkout (guess: Don King Promotions...) giving him access to the Klitschko corridor
- the water bottle vanished after the fight (which normally is controlled on forbidden substances like amphetamins)
- the cutman Joe Souza was fired because he for some reason only known to himself greased Wladimir not only on the face with vaseline (and probably something else), but allover his body, chest, arms, legs (!!!)
- finally, the urin and blood samples vanished from the hospital before Prof. Catlin, the doping expert who found the Balco drug, could test it (Klitschkos attorney asked for criminal investigation by the Nevada state officials) - he received empty bottles with only a small drop of at most a millilitre kept sticking to the walls
- all of which just happened by chance without any interference by certain boxing promoters or let alone organized crime - he just punched himself out! (repeat until convinced)
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Hasen't this occured with them before or was this another set of fighters that were brothers. I have a pro boxer friend that was telling me about some guys that were using something that was effecting the vison of other fighters, but no one could figure out what they were using.
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I hope he didn't refer to the "poisoned gloves" of Wlad against Chris Byrd. If you put poison on it, it will affect you also when making any contact to yourself. I think the same problem with his eyes happened when fighting Golota. Byrd was hit so many times viciously with tremendous power lefts by Wlad, it was a wonder he did not take MORE damage to his eyes. The swelling shut was bone swelling, this happens from impact, not from poison...

I wonder how much time it takes the WB-something organization to accept a certain probability of organized crime "intervention", ordering a rematch.
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I think so, but he was unsure how they were doing it. He sited a few other matches also where peoples eye's were shut all weird like.
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