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April 26th, 2004, 12:29 PM
|  | Olivia Ragazza | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Michigan Year(s): 2
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Rep Power: 27 | | | Dream a little dream of me..... Uh, the title really doesn't go with what I'm gonna discuss, I just like to throw song titles/lyrics (Louis Armstrong) in where ever possible.
So last night I dreamt that I went to a MA camp of somesort, met up with some old friends ect.
I ended up sparring this girl, who was probally a few inches shorter and 20 lbs lighter and reallly good with her kicks. In the dream I block everysingle one and continually get on the inside and....do nothing. I have every ability to punch her, elbow, clinch and even though she rules with her feet she's yet to have made contact thanks to my blocks.
So what does it mean if in my dream I'm sparing someone, can beat her, but don't
Anyother time I've dreamt about fighting it's always a survival thing where someone is hurting the family or house and I'm trying to destroy them. And usually in the other dreams/nightmares I'm the one beating the crap out of the guy with everything from Muay Thai to WWF style moves, and he feels no pain, nor takes any retaliation upon me (just to the loved ones or home like preiously said).This is the first time I've dreamt of just sparring, and then don't do anything.
Sooooo.......here's your assignment:
A) psycho analize this and tell me how screwed up I really am
B) relate any dreams of fighting (mostly sparring if possible)
C) listen to Louis Armstrong more often
Ready...set.......GO!!!!!!!!!!
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April 26th, 2004, 12:36 PM
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Hope that helps! 
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April 26th, 2004, 01:12 PM
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Rep Power: 0 | | | Last night I dreamt I was in the army, and I still had my fro. And I was hiding it from everyone.....
Oh, and all your dream is telling you is that you need to get your happy arse in a dojo somewhere pretty soon. Coud be some syncronicty on a particular road trip that my boy's are hounding me about(we already have the hotdog warmer).
Yep, get yer mouthpiece the game is calling you back.
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April 26th, 2004, 01:19 PM
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Rep Power: 63 | | | In the dream did you purposely "hold back" and not hit...or was it that you couldnt...something wouldnt let you
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April 26th, 2004, 01:20 PM
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April 26th, 2004, 01:43 PM
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Rep Power: 100 | | | I often have such dreams, containing intense feelings, and when I wake up, the feeling is still there. So, I try to let this feeling do what it wants to solve the problem, while awake. I don't try to analyze, I just keep it. Sometimes it takes a long time to "change" whatever has to, to go ok. I know this stuff where you are trying to do something, but it won't succeed.
I experienced it being something I don't LIKE to do, or something I "considered" to be good but would not function. Often, I also "did" things in dreams I couldn't in reality, and then from this slowly started to do it also in reality.
Like, I couldn't protest when things weren't right. I some day dreamed of buying a saucage, and it wasn't right, or I didn't receive the change. I was freaking out yelling like no good, and I first time experienced the FEELING of feeling angry in that dream. I awoke, still angry, and since then I learned how to be angry. Something comparable went on with a certain love feeling, but I yet wait for it to come in reality. The "love" I felt in my life seems to be something that is not love. I however remember to already have experienced that special feeling in one moment, but it didn't go permanent, stable.
For your dream, maybe you want to try defending against attacks, without going to blow away that person Just blocking when it's not dangerous I know those dreams where you do everything powerful, but it does not work, like the gun doesn't fire. I always had this ability to go crazy and blast away people like in a John Woo movie. Doing stunts I would not manage to show like this with no danger or anger. Later I had a problem doing so in reality, without feeling wrong and unhappy. And I had those dreams where I mobbed the floor, or did not really want to fight. I still work on getting both connected, not destroying people, and not avoiding to feel what I think giving up the values. Could be something like this. I maybe idealize "Not fighting", without accepting you SOMETIMES have to if you don't want to die, but often there are other solutions without giving in.
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April 26th, 2004, 02:05 PM
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Rep Power: 23 | | | Perhaps your dream is a manifestation of the struggle between your ID and Superego and you not striking back is showing your Ego's attempts to prevent either from winning.
A while back I'd have dreams of fighting someone and losing all power at the moment of my strikes impact.
I agree, everyone should listen to more Louis Armstrong. Leave me one thing before we part....
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April 26th, 2004, 02:28 PM
|  | Olivia Ragazza | | Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Michigan Year(s): 2
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In the dream did you purposely "hold back" and not hit...or was it that you couldnt...something wouldnt let you | ” | |
I held back. It was a friendly sparr, not like she wasn't giving it her all, but I didn't even give her a good rib shot or nothing, just blocking and smiling and telling her how good she was. Honestly her kicks were crouching tiger good. Far better than mine at the current moment. It was the only sparing dream I've ever had. And I don't remember how the match ended I just remmeber my friend from my old boxing gym was there (who's b-day was yesterday , one day older than me, can't wait till we're 30) and she's the type to always build you up no matter what you did, yet she was disappointed that I didn't touch the girl. "Maaan, you could of had her, what happened"
I know what you mean about the guns blazing dreams nik, but it wasn't where I was doing anything out of my current capacity. I've had those dreams, this was just not doing anything.
More Loui for the soul:
"you won't be satisfied until you break my heart"
The king o' romance.
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April 26th, 2004, 02:47 PM
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Rep Power: 63 | | | Perhaps subconsciously you feel like in your current situation (whatever that may be) that you are holding back....not giving it your all for some reason. And you are concerned of what others may be thinking of you if you "lose". You may feel that you are doing just enough to get by in whatever it is that's going on in your life....and you are concerned about the "why" and that others may notice this.
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April 26th, 2004, 02:47 PM
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Rep Power: 16 | | | Dont dreams generally mean the opposite of how they appear in the dream If that is the case it means in real life you would have whipped her backside once you got inside her defence!
Anyway, dont read too much into dreams. I dont want to go into any of mine (being a bloke!!) but non of them are ever remotley gonna come true (or make any sense anyway most of the time!).
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April 26th, 2004, 02:48 PM
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Rep Power: 63 | | | I would also propose that this dream isnt about martial arts per se. That's just a symbol...most likely you saw something/someone during the day that brought back some martial arts memories...leading to that metaphor in the dream.
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April 26th, 2004, 03:04 PM
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I doubt id, ego, superego from Freud comes into play in this dream. Maybe you were thinking "what a wonderful world" and didn't want to hurt the person you were sparring (Louis Armstrong).
Many times your dreams reflect upon the activities that occur during the day especially before falling asleep. For example, dreams about protecting family members probably something in your mind when putting children to bed. The manifest thought might be protecting your kids at all cost and wanting to hurt any scum who even think about hurting your family members. With that in mind, in your dreaming you were teaching and encouraging the individual whom you were sparring with. Because this person was smaller, less experience, and lighter often signals a younger individual. Maybe someone younger who looking upon your wisdom and guidance. You holding back meaning you do not want to discourage the individual.
Or you may just feel older and fear you may be losing your step with mentioning of "birthdays." The fact you could "had her" is your mind trying to reassure yourself. If this worries your subconscious, take ba gua, tai chi, and hsing-yi.
Sweet dreams.
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April 26th, 2004, 03:05 PM
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Rep Power: 27 | | | Uh probaly cause it was my friend's birthday and I watched a boxing match on cable earlier. Brought back memories, and whatnot.
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April 26th, 2004, 03:12 PM
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Rep Power: 63 | | | Yes...generally the images are simply metaphors brought on by something seen throughout the day. Something very brief....that would register mainly on a subconscious level...or something that was a theme throughout the day. (usually one extreme or the other)
However...one of the primary issues in dreams are the 'feelings'. If you felt like you should or were hold (ing) back then most likely that's been something you've been dealing with subconsciously for some time now.
The struggle seems to be what your mind is stating.
But it's not that big of a deal...just give it some thought and try to remember those feelings...and then think of what's been going on in your life recently and you'll have the most direct/accurate interpretation.
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April 26th, 2004, 03:34 PM
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Rep Power: 100 | | | Of course those dreams could be anything. BUT ...
... your soul who let you dream of it KNOWS what it meant by it, it already did something. All you have to do is to sit back and let feelings emerge from it, whenever it happens. I would not even know which things would come from which dream if it wasn't so obvious like in the bratwurst dream for anger. It's more like that you already took the passenger seat in the dream and went through something. It will happen as long as it takes to go through. I just don't fight my dreams, I let them. And only when it's very intense, I feel it in the morning. Even then my feelings pretty much take care of it alone, I do as less thinking as possible.
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