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July 20th, 2008, 06:25 AM
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July 20th, 2008, 01:50 PM
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Rep Power: 81 | | | [quote=WraithAlcon;346289]I think its too early to jump to conclusions like that. Above all, professional athletes are human beings who deal with the same problems we all do. However, they have the privelage of having their issues analyzed by the media at large.
I've ready a fair amount of statements from longtime friends who say this is very much out of Jackson's character. That doesn't excuse his actions, but I think its a little early for us to judge.
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Have you seen the tv show? These guys are acting like they are in MTV real world and getting paid for it. It gets ratings and provides media hype. Being a class act is not as good for ratings, Who needs restraint, self control, respect and dignity?
Oh and I dont remember the last time one of my regular guy problems prompted me to go nuts with my truck and get chased by police through the city.
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July 20th, 2008, 03:14 PM
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July 21st, 2008, 11:00 AM
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Posted By: GuiLongUmar 
Have you seen the tv show? These guys are acting like they are in MTV real world and getting paid for it. It gets ratings and provides media hype. Being a class act is not as good for ratings, Who needs restraint, self control, respect and dignity? | ” | |
Actually you're wrong. If you are referring to the competition fight nights, the crowd cheers when a fighter is a "class act", and boos when they show a lack of respect for the other fighter.
If you are referring to the Ultimate Fighter television show, their ratings actually get worse when the seasons tried to be more like The Real World. And this has led to small changes over the seasons to try and get things in order. Not to mention staying in a house with 15 other guys who you may or may not have personality clashes with, with no form of mental escape, and ample supply of alcohol isn't a recipe for anything but disaster. | “ | Oh and I dont remember the last time one of my regular guy problems prompted me to go nuts with my truck and get chased by police through the city. | ” | |
Yeah...so how many "legends" of old Chinese masters involves going around killing people? How many masters were bandits in their youths? How many masters glorified killing or maiming opponents that insulted them?
People are human and sometimes do stupid things. The latest thing I heard was that Rampage was not on any drugs, but had been fasting for several days.
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July 21st, 2008, 11:23 AM
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Yep, depression and weight issues can mess up your head...wonder if he tried to self medicate...or tried meds and went off cold turkey. That can REALLY mess you up. | ” | |
I self medicate. I take valiums to relax me and to take the edge off. Especially if it's been a hard day at work. As for my paranoia and schitsophrenia I just take my meds whenever I start hearing the voices whispering in my ear.  Usually I catch the symptoms in time before I go on a rampage. 
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August 4th, 2008, 12:47 PM
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Rep Power: 108 | | | It is now being reported that one of the vehicles Jackson hit contained a pregnant woman who has since suffered a miscarriage. Tests are being performed to see whether the accident is what caused the miscarriage or not. If so, then Jackson might be facing more serious charges and his career might be over.
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August 4th, 2008, 01:42 PM
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It is now being reported that one of the vehicles Jackson hit contained a pregnant woman who has since suffered a miscarriage. Tests are being performed to see whether the accident is what caused the miscarriage or not. If so, then Jackson might be facing more serious charges and his career might be over. | ” | |
Dear God, what else can go wrong for him? What has gotten into him.  He seemed to be a level headed guy on the show The Ultimate Fighter.
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August 4th, 2008, 02:12 PM
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Rep Power: 100 | | | Go wrong "for him"?! He's not a victim of circumstance, he's a stupid SOB.
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August 4th, 2008, 02:14 PM
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Go wrong "for him"?! He's not a victim of circumstance, he's a stupid SOB. | ” | |
Apparentely so. I never said he was a victim of circumstance I was just wondering what got into him to do such craziness. Is he on drugs? I'm asking in all seriousness.
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August 4th, 2008, 02:47 PM
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Rep Power: 108 | | | Allegedly he read that fasting was good for the spirit, so he fasted for several days and as such went bat**** crazy. So no, no drugs have been found in his system that I have read of.
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August 5th, 2008, 02:22 AM
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Rep Power: 22 | | | All I can say is what a waste of life. He should have consulted with medical professionals before he started fasting. Also, if he caused a miscarriage then I am certain that when he is facing trial the prosecution will certainly try to mail him to the wall. | 
August 5th, 2008, 09:43 AM
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All I can say is what a waste of life. He should have consulted with medical professionals before he started fasting. Also, if he caused a miscarriage then I am certain that when he is facing trial the prosecution will certainly try to mail him to the wall. | ” | |
Yeah and they'll make MMA out to be something bad and blame it.
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August 5th, 2008, 11:57 AM
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August 5th, 2008, 05:04 PM
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Rep Power: 164 | | | I'm holding off my judgement until we find out that he actually did cause the miscarriage and that this chick isn't just some gold digger jumping at an opportunity and just incidentally had a miscarriage after the fact. She was already filing charges and preparing to sue before the miscarriage immediately after she found out he was a celebrity.
Reports say he was going 45 mph and he "sideswiped her vehicle". I mean really... how much damage can that do? I sideswiped a guard rail doing 70 once and didn't even get a hangnail. If he was barrelling at her doing 100 mph I could see where she could claim emotional distress or whatever but a guy coming at you at 45 mph going in the same direction and then scraping your car...?
I'm sorry but until I hear more details I'm having trouble with it... I am not condoning what Rampage did, I'm just not condoning what this chick is doing, either, if she is in fact simply gold digging.
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August 5th, 2008, 08:48 PM
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