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August 21st, 2005, 10:04 AM
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Rep Power: 127 | | | Well, like I mentioned in my first post on this thread. This reminds me of my teachers introduction to our system. Now he has rather quick, precise, powerful kicks. Side kicks, leg kicks.... dude, it sucks. Anyways, before our style, his bread and butter was his side kick. Yet he was told basically this.... "I bet I can side palm harder than your side kick." He took the challenge and here we are today.
In any case, like I said before... it all depends on motion. If we're talking about a boxer type punch vs. kick, I'll say kick. If we're talking about a soft internal strike... LOL..... money always on the punch.
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August 21st, 2005, 12:28 PM
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Rep Power: 78 | | | some of the post crack me up. I thought being a china man, engrish might be a problem. What's more powerful, kick or punch.
Then you hear, I can strike three times before akick...
Hahahahaha - THat's why I come here. The post here can be funnier than the comedy channel.
NEXT TIME YOU WATCH COPS and they wanna take a door down, call them, ask them why they don't punch it down. Why the heck you you guys keep kicking the door? The punch is greater, no?
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August 21st, 2005, 12:32 PM
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Rep Power: 78 | | | ANd then there was the surface area/force comment.
Yeah, next time, pheonix eye a door...then when that dosn't work...but give it at least 100 attempt...KICK IT DOWN.
...but...but...but it's slower and has more surface area?
Let's make this a little more obvious - a bycicle or a semi going at full speed - which one you wanna stand in front of. But hey, mayby your little sister can ride real fast on her bike...
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August 21st, 2005, 12:51 PM
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Posted By: Inferus
Something I've just thought about...
Does a punch have a more external effect, like cutting/bruising skin whereas a kick has a penetrating effect on the body and damages muscles/bones.
My reason for asking is because if you kick someone in the leg it hurts the muscle. If you punch someone in the leg, it bruises! (This is more of a medium power attack, rather than full force from either which will cause bruising regardless) | ” | |
Apparently you haven't been trained in cutting punches.
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August 21st, 2005, 04:18 PM
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Posted By: Allan_Tsang
ANd then there was the surface area/force comment.
Yeah, next time, pheonix eye a door...then when that dosn't work...but give it at least 100 attempt...KICK IT DOWN.
...but...but...but it's slower and has more surface area?
Let's make this a little more obvious - a bycicle or a semi going at full speed - which one you wanna stand in front of. But hey, mayby your little sister can ride real fast on her bike... | ” | |
Well theres a reason why arrows are pointed, unless you're going to dispute that? |
August 22nd, 2005, 11:58 AM
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Well theres a reason why arrows are pointed, unless you're going to dispute that? | ” | |
Oh no you didn't just say that. 
How is using an arrow head relate to the fist? Or phoenix fist, whatever? And please don't say shape.
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August 22nd, 2005, 02:00 PM
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Well theres a reason why arrows are pointed, unless you're going to dispute that? | ” | |
Would you rather get hit with an arrow or a cannonball?
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August 22nd, 2005, 02:51 PM
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Rep Power: 30 | | | Erm, neither. Although the cannonball is less likely to puncture flesh depending on the distance. Arrow would be instantaneous death, cannonball would be prolonged since it would cause internal bleeding + bone fracturing.
Pressure = Force / Area
Lets not forget, the knuckles are a lot harder than the instep of your foot or the base of your foot. Maybe thats why i'd rather be kicked then punched.
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August 22nd, 2005, 02:51 PM
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August 22nd, 2005, 03:29 PM
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Posted By: Inferus
Erm, neither. Although the cannonball is less likely to puncture flesh depending on the distance. Arrow would be instantaneous death, cannonball would be prolonged since it would cause internal bleeding + bone fracturing. | ” | |
Have you actually seen what a cannon ball does to a person? It rips through limbs, ruptures bodies, and is overall much more destructive than an arrow head, you can survive an arrow wound unless it hits the carotid/jugular, goes through the eye into the brain, or penetrates through the heart, a cannon ball that hits a person's chest goes right through along with that person's organs.
Arrow Head=Higher Survival Rate
Cannon Ball=Good Night Charlie | “ | Lets not forget, the knuckles are a lot harder than the instep of your foot or the base of your foot. Maybe thats why i'd rather be kicked then punched. | ” | |
While I can agree with your reasoning, and that's why techniques like chop choi, phoenix eye, leopard paw, etc. are used, to focus all power into a smaller surface to increase thier ability to cause damage, I still would rather be punched, a kick does way more damage way to easily over what a punch will do.
Kick + Force + Ball or Heel= OUCH!
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August 22nd, 2005, 03:59 PM
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Rep Power: 39 | | | LOL, I can't believe this is still so contraversial. Go to class, hold a focus mit to your chest and have someone pheonix eye it as hard as they can, then have someone stand to the side and roundhouse kick that thing as hard as they can and let me know what happens, ok?
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August 22nd, 2005, 04:28 PM
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Posted By: Jubei
LOL, I can't believe this is still so contraversial. Go to class, hold a focus mit to your chest and have someone pheonix eye it as hard as they can, then have someone stand to the side and roundhouse kick that thing as hard as they can and let me know what happens, ok? | ” | |
Fair enough, i see your point now. |
August 22nd, 2005, 05:54 PM
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plus in the movies you never hear "Hey quick pull that cannon ball out of my gut" 
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August 22nd, 2005, 06:44 PM
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August 22nd, 2005, 06:53 PM
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Posted By: GreatBear
theres only one way to find out. Who has more intention the kicker or the puncher? i think kicks have more power but by the time you land one power kick you could punch at least three times with force then again it all matters on the person | ” | |
Intention again? I hope this isn't the new buzzword, Mike Tyson doesn't knock people out with his intention. | |
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