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Old November 2nd, 2005, 05:42 AM
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what's in your little black book?

remembering forms can be pretty hard, so many people write down their forms to remember it.

I would like to know how you make your notes

or better:
show us what's in your little black book

give some examples of what you've written to remember your forms...

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That's probably a good idea, but I've never done that.
Just constant practice untill they're locked into muscle-memory.
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I actually do have a small black book and a small red book. The black book is for kung fu, the red book is for tai chi.

After the class in the evening I write out all the new material I've learned in class, sometimes it is forms, sometimes it is better ways to stretch/exercise, etc.

I do refer to the books from time to time, however I look forward to reading them at the end of a year.

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I have a HUGE notebook with notes from several different teachers/styles in it. I'll type up some after I get some sleep I just got off work. I write down everything, its a habit.
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Old November 2nd, 2005, 08:35 AM
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examples people, examples...

can you post a (part of a) form as you wrote it down in your notebook?

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no problemo dude...

just check www.selini108.com

my digital notebook...
I'll post some more stuff later today...

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Eh ok... here's a piece of a set named Siu Lin Waan Kyun directly from my notes...

Suck back MM WDJ, jump LGM Cerng Yang Jeung
Dive through & under LH scoops cover RH Chaap Cheui
Pull back MM RH Gwa Cheui LH Gwa Cheui
Circle Scoop Chao Cheui
Step LM Cerng Gwa Cheui
Untwist LL NJM Heung Cheui
Advance Forward SPM Suek Jeung Da
Advance TM Chao Cheui
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I have a document on my computer with all my techniques listed within.

I write things like:

Regular block with left hand (Similar to palm up), right punch to stomach, left chop to side of neck, step right foot in, pull opponent down and apply half rice bail choke.

This isn't exactly a form, it's just a single technique. Forms wise we don't have much at all, only about 6 forms which are very short and simple to remember, apart from some of the 2 man weapon forms.
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Sui Nim Tao

Step forward, inhale, ching, exhale sink into basic stance and relax shoulders.

measure centre line.
punch left, open hand, huen, make fist, pull back. Repeat right.

taan left, sinking jum, pull back with tension, relax, fook pushing forward, elbow moving in, tension pulling back, stop one fist distance from body and jum. Repeat three times then repeat right.

left paak sau across body then forward, repeat right. First section complete.

Second section

down left, right then join hands and behind then in front straight up to laan then double chop, double jum, double taan, double jut, double bui, both down then up, return. Second section complete.

Third section

left paak across then shat geng sau huen and return, repeat right .

taan, gaan, tok sau, palm strike, huen return- repeat right.

bong, taan, palm strike, huen and return. Repeat right. Hand brushing thing, centre line punches- FINITO!!!!

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Old November 2nd, 2005, 10:20 AM
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from digital notes on Tan Tui (it's a copy/ paste thing, so partially in Dutch )


Tan Tui Line 8

Openingsritueel.
Begint als 1, tot en met de low kick, zet linkervoet na de kick in cat stance naar linker zijde gekeerd neer,
Rechts blocked hoog terwijl links knokkelslag helemaal naar beneden maakt. Draai vuisten voor je borst en
Maak een hielkick naar links tegelijk met een linkerstoot. Rechtervuist gaat onderwijl in waist.
Zet je linkervoet weer neer en maak direct een cat stance naar de rechter zijde. Links blocked nu hoog terwijl
Rechts een knokkelslag maakt helemaal naar beneden. Breng vuisten voor je borst en maak een hielkick met rechts tegelijk met een rechterstoot. Linkervuist gaat onderwijl in de waist. Maak een dubbelblok voor het lichaam (vuisten borsthoogte, ellebogen navel hoogte). In horse stance, en eindig met stoot met rechts in bowstance, linkervuist in de waist.
Ga verder als 1 dus breng onderarm horizontaal naar binnen door elleboog te knikken, uppercut in bowstance met links, rechter arm haaks gestrekt.
Press, low kick links, zet rechtervoet na de kick in cat stance naar rechter zijde gekeerd neer,
Links blocked hoog terwijl rechts knokkelslag helemaal naar beneden maakt. Draai vuisten voor je borst en
Maak een hielkick naar rechts tegelijk met een rechterstoot. Linkervuist gaat onderwijl in waist.
Zet je rechtervoet weer neer en maak direct een cat stance naar de linker zijde. rechts blocked nu hoog terwijl
links een knokkelslag maakt helemaal naar beneden. Breng vuisten voor je borst en maak een hielkick met links tegelijk met een linkerstoot. Rechtervuist gaat onderwijl in de waist. Maak een dubbelblok voor het lichaam (vuisten borsthoogte, ellebogen navel hoogte). In horse stance, en eindig met stoot met links in bowstance, rechtervuist in de waist.
Ga verder als 1 dus breng onderarm horizontaal naar binnen door elleboog te knikken, uppercut in bowstance met rechts, linker arm haaks gestrekt.
Press, low kick rechts, stoot met rechts in bowstance.
zet linkervoet na de kick in cat stance naar linker zijde gekeerd neer,
Rechts blocked hoog terwijl links knokkelslag helemaal naar beneden maakt. Draai vuisten voor je borst en
Maak een hielkick naar links tegelijk met een linkerstoot. Rechtervuist gaat onderwijl in waist.
Zet je linkervoet weer neer en maak direct een cat stance naar de rechter zijde. Links blocked nu hoog terwijl
Rechts een knokkelslag maakt helemaal naar beneden. Breng vuisten voor je borst en maak een hielkick met rechts tegelijk met een rechterstoot. Linkervuist gaat onderwijl in de waist. Maak een dubbelblok voor het lichaam (vuisten borsthoogte, ellebogen navel hoogte). In horse stance, en eindig met stoot met rechts in bowstance, linkervuist in de waist.
Sluitingsritueel.

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I have several books most include diagrams symbols and a narrative.
I write all the time not to remember but to be able to pass it on.
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I have a Word file that houses all my forms. Its only about 10 pages long and has form work from So Lim PM, Northern Shaolin, Tan Tui, White Dragon, and xing yi. Wing chun stuff is on tape, and soon, SPM stuff will be on tape as well. I actually looked back at it a few weeks ago, and its all a bit more cryptic than I had hoped it would be...Ill post some fo it when I get home from work tonight...

I have a separate notebook where I keep all my dit da jow recipes. They are actaully all written down on Engineering graph paper and/or printed excel tables, stuffed inside of the book that I order my bulk herbs out of.


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Openingsritueel.
Begint als 1, tot en met de low kick, zet linkervoet na de kick in cat stance naar linker zijde gekeerd neer,
Rechts blocked hoog terwijl links knokkelslag helemaal naar beneden maakt. Draai vuisten voo.
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Ive gotta say Chief, that is, far and away, the most amazing and informative post I have ever seen. Really, It all just makes...sooo much sense...
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I keep a Word file, too. I'd draw diagrams but I'm a terrible artist. Since Wah Lum has a school handbook, I keep the forms in sequence the way the handbook does so I can cross-reference if need be.

For each move, I write:
1. Name of the movement
2. How the move is done
3. The application(s).
- Because the number of applications increase as I progress, I come back to Part 3 a lot to add them, which is why the Word file is helpful.

In many cases there is a Part 4 - transitions - which is all theory gleaned from practice and not necessarily part of the form. E.g., doing the move by itself, what are some logical follow-ups to this move? I'll go and practice with a partner and if they work, I'll add them.

I also have a binder with some training charts I made up in Excel, to track out-of-class training like runs, strength training, etc.
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My Sifu encouraged this, so much as to give us time at the end of class to write and ask questions. This if the second page of my Wing Chun book, on Sil Lum Tao:

-Breathing, Qi gong
-Neutralizing the initiative
-Middle animal theory
-Yin Yang theory
-Simultaneous arm use theory
-On/Off theory (centre-moving-back to centre)
-Expanding/Contracting theory
-3 level (self/bridge/opponent) theory
-4 ounce theory - feeling the root
-straightest line theory

Ect.

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