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December 22nd, 2005, 01:24 PM
|  | I'm a Dragon By Choice  | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: PEI, Canada Style(s): Kajukenpo Ch'uan Fa / SW Year(s): 7+
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December 22nd, 2005, 01:50 PM
|  | Soul of a Warrior | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: New Zealand Style(s): WC, Tai chi/Chi kung Year(s): 1 year
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Without technique there is nothing to apply in practise.
Being practical is a good way to practise becasue it give a no nonsense way to fight a inexperienced opponent. but when you fight some one with the same skill as you, knowing the more aspect of things will bring you out on top
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December 22nd, 2005, 01:55 PM
|  | Fear is the Mind Killer  | | Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: MA Style(s): Long Men Jia Quan Year(s): 27
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ALso I feel that all of us are guilty of being one more than the other. Unless you have thre presence of mind and discipline to balance your practice, or a teacher to constantly remind you.
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December 22nd, 2005, 02:05 PM
| | I'm a Dragon By Choice | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: PEI, Canada Style(s): Kajukenpo Ch'uan Fa / SW Year(s): 7+
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Rep Power: 21 | | | When teaching ... I do tech first then apply and show the practical. I'm guilty of .. when coming down to fighting and defending myself .. Practical, brutal and overkill.
that's me ... My Shr fu keeps reminding me to get out of Tiger mode and make the transition to Dragon.
Tiger - all actions
Dragon - actions with thought.
I still act and react without thought. It's gonna take some time. but eventually I'll get there.
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December 22nd, 2005, 02:06 PM
| | El Guapo #2 | | Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Liverpool, UK Style(s): Judo & BJJ Year(s): 4
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Rep Power: 30 | | | Normally, just tell me a bodypart to hit and with what part of my body and I'll be able to do it, reasonably well. Give me a few months on practice and I'll do it perfect, then with some *slight* modifications to my stance work in order to develop even more power.
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December 22nd, 2005, 02:08 PM
| | I'm a Dragon By Choice | | Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: PEI, Canada Style(s): Kajukenpo Ch'uan Fa / SW Year(s): 7+
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Rep Power: 21 | | | I tend to demo on everyone in the class ... when I teach so they can honestly let their partner know if it's being applied correctly.
But of course have a few consistant demo dummies.
Honesty in training ... only way to go.
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December 30th, 2005, 04:03 PM
|  | HEY IT'S ME!!!  | | Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Northern Califas Style(s): Kombatan(currently) Year(s): not enough
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Posted By: Jaron
I'm both. I'm a visual mathematician as psychologists may say and have a very analytical mind. I can view any shape or object in any 3D environment in my mind's eye. Some people learn the motions, the "choreography," first and once they have those down they'll start learning applications. That works for them, not me. I start by learning purpose or intent of the move I'm about to learn. Then after I visualize what my opponent will be doing I can adapt it to multiple variations. Basically by analyzing the situation to death, I can adapt and improvise as needed. "Moves" have limited use. Principles can be applied to anything. | ” | |
Couldn't have said it better Jaron!! I am the same way!! I feel that you can apply things in a practical way and they can be proficient. But knowing the techincal side of the application, you will truly know how to apply the technique with as much or as little force as deemed necessary for the situation. Street Fighters are practical and what they do is proficient. But as martial artists, we dig deeper and get to the root of the technique and know it well! |
December 30th, 2005, 04:33 PM
|  | Eternal Student   | | Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Utah Style(s): Hung Gar Year(s): Too Few
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Posted By: animal_stylez
Couldn't have said it better Jaron!! I am the same way!! I feel that you can apply things in a practical way and they can be proficient. But knowing the techincal side of the application, you will truly know how to apply the technique with as much or as little force as deemed necessary for the situation. | ” | |
Why thanks! You can teach a monkey to push buttons on a calculator but he won't know math. I've even seen a chimp in a gi but no one would say he actually knows MA. But to actually know something is to be able to make it work in many different ways. Only by learning the underlying principles can you become adaptive and improvisational in your MA fighting ability.
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