Are traditional uniforms and training hall important to you?

My school trains in uniforms. I''m not nuts on the idea because I hate Gi tops. The pants are fine, but the real question is: if you don't wear a uniform, why wear a belt/shash? Or do you?

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“	Originally Posted By: Snake-Panther but the real question is: if you don't wear a uniform, why wear a belt/shash? Or do you?	”

I have a sash, I don't often wear it, the only times I do is when there are new students(so they know the seniority), visitors from other schools, demonstrations/tournaments.
I don't find that a sash/belt really proves anything, it's nice if it's colored and has nice patches/logos and stuff, but the real proof is in the pudding as they say, your skills/abilities/and knowledge tell others what your level is.

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You can have both good and bad days so should you change your sash each day?

I agree with you Mei, it was just another view.

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Sash is to (a) hold your pants up, (b) provide some back support (c) a grab point for your lion dance partner when doing the lifts.

The colored sash ranks are a fairly new convention adapted from the Japanese model. Traditional sashes, color didn't matter. Like Mei Hua says, the proof was in your skills.

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“	Originally Posted By: Lucid You can have both good and bad days so should you change your sash each day?	”

If your skills vary that much on a day to day basis, you should probably retire, you didn't have much skill in the first place.

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Harsh, but true...

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I thought uniforms were used as not to tear you weaker everyday cloths.
I also thought color belts and sashes were used so your teacher can tell at glance what techniques you need to work on.
and yes i agree harsh but true.

The only tradition that is important to me is the one about hard work.

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“	Originally Posted By: Fatdragon I thought uniforms were used as not to tear you weaker everyday cloths. I also thought color belts and sashes were used so your teacher can tell at glance what techniques you need to work on. and yes i agree harsh but true.	”

A very astute observation. I agree with you entirely.

I was kidding tough guy or am I the only one that is not allowed to.

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I say yes to kwoon, however your setup may be. As for clothing... what happens when the clothing isn't on?

And for the next person posting after me, try not to abuse my last line please......

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It's all about the nitty gritty.......

Yes you better be careful or the self appointed hall monitor might be watching and will be offended and want to scold you.

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Ah... hmmmm... I may have to scold myself then? LOL.....

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It's all about the nitty gritty.......

What the heck was this thread about to begin with? Oh, yeah...the question was are traditional uniforms and training halls important to you? To me...no, not at all. However, there are some in the group-and the world, for that matter-that train in MA to touch upon the culture that is ingrained in that certain MA. For those, then yes, uniforms and training hall authenticity is important. IMO, though, it all comes down to the meat of the meal: the style you are practicing, not the fly clothes you are wearing or the sweet digs you are practicing your Tan Tuei in...heck, I look like a shirtless Paul Bunyan and I train in a clearing among some mesquite trees...pretty "country", but it is what I do...and I don't long for silky PJ's and a cold AC, either.

“	Originally Posted By: jawsman As for clothing... what happens when the clothing isn't on?	”

If you don't know jaws, we're going to have to have one heck of a serious discussion






*Edit* I'm the 4th person to post, not the next, so I think that allows for commentary.

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