Tan Tui (Springy Legs)

Greetings everyone!

I wanted to come to the Dragonslist comunity for this question. The 6,10, or 12 routines of Tan Tui have alot of history in them. I wanted to gather as much as possible for these routines. I do have alot of information myself at this time but there can never be enough.

-When and who is thought to have created them
-What are the timeframes, Dynasties, in which they were popular and practiced most often
-What are the branches that train in them and their specific branch name of that TanTui
-What are the names of each separate routine in the 8, 10, or 12 sets

These questions are by far not a limit as to what we can exchange in information on them, only a framework to begin assembling what we know

Hope the hear from many of you. If anyone does practice this routine please let me know anything you have on them. I might have missing pieces in my notes and kowledge. I personally practice the 12 routines taught and formulated by the Guoshu Institute. I find them very effective in a great workout and good for martial training.

I have Tan Tuei sets one through three of the ten set. My Sifu knows more than just the ten set but that is the only one I've seen. We have allways called them Tan Tuei 1-10. I have seen the set in its entirety and its one of my personal favorites. I know its practiced widely by Muslims and is considered a long fist set. I seen something about Tan Tuei a few years ago in a BK Frantzis book as well. I have heard people talk about a Tan Tuei set comming from the White Horse Temple (Bai Ma Si) but from what I've heard its stances are alot higher than the set I Practice. I know alot of schools, especially Shaolin teach Tan Tuei as part of the basics.

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I learned a 12 road Tan Tui as taught by Peter Kwok's students. A couple of months ago I purschased Sifu Wing Lam's 10 road Tan Tui and Dr. Yang Jwing Ming's 12 road Tan Tui to compare/contrast with my own training. I was very suprised at the amount of variation between the different interpretations. I don't know much about the history, probably stuff you already know, I have been told that it was created or was popular with the muslim ethnic chinese (name escapes me). People often say that Tan Tui translates to "springing leg" because of the kicking technique, although, at least in the way I was taught Tan Tui, the hand techniques far outnumber the kicks, so my personal speculation is that "Tan Tui" could POSSIBLY refer to power being transfered from the ground via the legs into the body. I just remembered that Adam Hsu says that Tan Tui is part of a ethnic Muslim Chinese martial art, and that it is the beginning form and there are two more additional forms. I believe he teaches this style. Check out www.adamhsu.com

Hey, I found the article where he discusses this info. Go to his website(Adam Hsu), go to articles, and click on the first article, enititled "Mental training: Long Fist's Secret Weapon"
He also mentions that "Cha Quan" as the 3rd form and I believe this is the style Wang Ziping studied, who, by the way, was a muslim! Master Wang has descendants living in America, although for the most part they practice internal arts, maybe they could give you more info.

Never trained in Tan Tui, but I was told that the name does refer to the power generated and using the legs. So I think u r right Storm.

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Does you guys know any source (website) with schematic draws for each one

No, I don't know where you could get drawings. I know of at least one book on 10 road Tan Tui, and the two videos that I mentioned previously.

“	Originally Posted By: richorta Does you guys know any source (website) with schematic draws for each one	”

Is this what you are after ..
Catch ya.
Tan Tui

I don't mind old threads being revived at all.

But, the person who asked the question hasn't even posted on DL in over three years.

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a lot of kung fu systems incorporate at least one of the tan tui set in them. my school teaches praying mantis ( along with others ) and alot of the focus is on the springing leg. from what I understand, it is all about the kicks, particularly arial varieties. but also helps to build great leg strength

Good for getting your lungs going as well !!!

Revived thread, but a good topic.

Tan tui is not necessarily all about the kicks. Though I'm sure there are variations out there that focus more on the high-flying aerial stuff. kitedancer's link shows a good example of what you'll find in the exercises. You don't just get strong legs, you get "springy" legs -- all-around functional strength with great flexibility.

IMO tan tui takes static horse stance training up a step (or several steps depending on how you look at it). You're no longer just holding a stance or shifting from stance to stance, you're also transitioning from low to high and vice versa, from one angle of attack or defend to another, and you're engaging the entire body in the exercise.

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