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Old April 21st, 2002, 01:27 AM
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Nerve locking, what do you know about it?

Any one here knows anything about nerve locking
I would like to learn that, know where I can find any info
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Okay, not getting any answers here on nerve locking
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Old April 22nd, 2002, 03:44 PM
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Nerve locking That sounds like dim mak, but I don't think that is what you are asking. I would restate the question so that others might be able to advise or discuss.
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Dim Mak... mmmm... It could be, I know it does has to do with striking points on one body to lock the nerves to where the person can not move a particular area of his body.
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I'm familiar with the vulcan pinch, it's a very deadly technique. It will render someone helpless.
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I don't believe there is a technique called nerve locking, but perhaps you're thinking of joint locking It sounds a bit similar to what you're talking about. If you're referring to the subtle techniques that activate reflexes on an opponent in order to control them, you're probably thinking of Daito-Ryu Aiki Jujutsu. At the higher levels (there are four degrees of technique), you use soft "strikes" to certain areas, which feel like...small electrical shocks is the best I can describe it. Then it causes your opponent to have a reflexive reaction to it, which, as a Jujutsu practioner of that level, you predict and take advantage of. At the most advanced levels, you can't even really tell what's going on by watching, because the master is gently touching the opponent and controlling them. This is, however, some of the most advanced technique in the entire system. It is one of the styles that I revere the most.
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My style of aiki jujitsu is partially derived from Daito ryu and a couple other styles of jujitsu.
Ranger definitely knows what he is talking about!
In most jujitsu/aiki arts at upper levels you will see alot of pressure point manipulations and such, just to get a certain reaction out of the opponent, basically setting them up for another technique....very nice stuff!
I believe that is were problems have come into the art of aikido. I think some of the founders students saw him doing these advanced type techniques and as Ranger said...you cant really tell whats going on...it just looks like a dance where the opponent is doing the work for you...and I think that has led to some of the watered down aikido styles. Just my theory though.
But at upper levels...it does look like nothing is goin on...then suddenly someone hits the floor in pain...lol.
That sounds like what wayof was referring to...
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That maybe x893 Or maybe it's that movie that I watched that exadurated the whole thing

Are you familar with the movie Legend 2 with jet li
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Nerve locking Techniques

Sounds to me as if you are referring to the locking techniques of Shaolin Chin Na (Qin Na)
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Yeah there are nerve locking techniques...this is where you strike a point and it send a message to the brain telling it that that part of the body does not work any more and that it has to be shut down!!! Very dangerous stuff!!!
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Shaolin chin na

I beleive there is much of what you are looking for in chin-na. There are many good books on the subject, I reccomend starting with Yang Jwing-Ming's. He has written a ew on shaolin chin-na, and one on Taiji cin-na. A couple of things that I have found that work well are: pinch/finger-grab the sterno-mastiod complex. This is located by following a straight line down from your ear(either one), thenmove towards your larnax or adam's apple. It is pretty much half way in between. We affecionately referred to this as the "***** spot", because when you grab it yoiu pretty much turn whoever you have ahold of into your *****. Another fun one to use, but is really difficult to pull off in combat is: when someone extends their arm out far enough, strike the spot inbetween their bicep and tricep on their inner arm. At the same time press the outside of their arm into the strike with an open palm. This actually causes temporary paralisis of that limb. Like I said before, this is difficult to do in full speed combat, but is a great parlor trick. As well as a means of understanding the principles that yoiu are asking about.
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Thanks! I believe that is what I was talking about. I saw the same technique used in Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon as well as the legend two. I want to learn more about this technique.
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Nerve Holds et.al.

A good reference for the locations of really vulnerable points in the human body is Gray's Anatomy.

True, it isn't a martial arts guide, but it's a great source of information regarding the human physical matrix. Any sufficiently creative martial artist could study these points, and develop specific techniques to suit their needs.

Brief list of good nerve-strike techniques-
1: one-knuckle-- for softer points
2: elbow-- for in-fighting and thicker/harder points
3: knee-- to strike pelvic/leg points
4: hammer-fist-- crown/forehead strike

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Hey wayofthedragon, isn't Legend 2 where Jet Li plays Fong Sai Yuk, and his uncle gets in a fight with the bad guys and paralyzes a bunch of them like statues He also paralyzes a chicken in that fight scene!lol!!!!! I love watching that. Yeah, you can strike or hold people in a way that will temporarily paralyze parts of there anatomy or lesson there sensation in it or ability to use it, however, I must say I am skeptical that anybody could tap someone on the body and freeze them like a bronze statue!
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It almost sounds like Nerve Locking is only a simpler idea similar Dim Mak. My guess would be that nerve clusters are struck in order to control an opponents movements. Like deadening an arms to slow them down similar to what some modern boxers do in the ring. Hitting the shoulders or high chest, biceps etc...

I know some styles start with this training and in later stages they slowly turn the strategies into pressure point concepts. This allows the person to develop the strengths and skills needed to use for pressure point striking later on.

Grey's Anatomy is a great rescource for the nervous system. You would be able to see the larger clusters of nerves and develop strategies to hit them from techniques learned in class. Interesting Idea.
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